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Topic: schild steel guitars, switzerland |
Norbert Dengler
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germany
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steve takacs
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beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 6:42 am Nice steel but perhaps a bit costly |
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The guitars look very well made indeed particularly the underside. Were it not for cost, I'd love to have one.
I went to the site and the only price listed was for a 2011 S-10 3 + 5 for
CHF 3500 which today was $3692.00
New steels were Preise auf Anfrage so one has to request a price from the builder. I always find that a bit of a bother. Why not just list the prices?
For most non-Europeans shipping and customs would also need to be tacked onto the price and that could be more than most Europeans would have to pay for a Schild, Devis, WBS Jagiella, Promat or other steels made in Europe .
Of course the same thing happens to our European steelers when they buy from the USA or Canada.
stevet
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Dustin Rhodes
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Owasso OK
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 6:46 am
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| Things are expensive in Europe. Worse in Australia. Granted they have lots of things that they don't buy that we do so there is a bit of a tradeoff. |
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 7:15 am
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"Preis auf Anfrage" means price by request.
i guess they`re slightly over the american top brands
they seem pricey, but believe me if you see and play them they`re cheap.  |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 12:40 pm
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Interesting keyless tuner with a lot of string length between the rollers and the tuning levers.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 2:34 pm
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I've checked this site out a few times. I was referred to it by someone here when we were talking about half stops. These guitars look as good as any I have seen. I love the matching formica on the endplates. Someone should buy me the blue one.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 2:54 pm
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| nice to see a quality steel with a slightly different aesthetic. |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 3:22 pm What are the prices?
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Norbert, what do the Schild D-10 8+5, and Schild S-10P 3 +5 with pad cost in CHF?
Chris is correct; Schild steels are different from most steels one would see.
How would you compare them to the German WBS pedal steel? The WBS also looks well-designed and has the option of a Double-Stop which is more solid than a regular feel stop. It also has the option of a Tuning Lock to change the E9 Tuning into a 6th Tuning. |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 5:51 pm
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| There's some thought in there, for sure. With all the problems people have with strings mounting on pins, that break; or slots that drop string balls into the changer, that kind of solution - use bigger pins - seems to escape discussion. |
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Posted 25 Feb 2015 10:24 pm
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changing strings on a schild is real easy. there`s a video on the website demonstrating it.
steve, WBS is a great steel guitar, german product, made by a great guy and craftsman, played by many pro players including
sarah jory and more...
as a german myself i know about german quality and am proud of it.
but honestly, the swiss stuff is always a tad above ours.
hard to explain, but i tell you if you see and play a schild in person, youll know.
like i said: ain`t seen nothing equal.
sorry, i don`t know what they cost, but if you consider the incredible work the guy puts in they`re surely not expensive. like most or maybe all steel guitar builders he surely doesn`t make èm to get rich. |
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Jean-Marie Raffault
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France
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Posted 26 Feb 2015 2:31 am
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It's mine. 3 and 4, Telonic pickup.
This guitar is from 1992 and plays like butter.
Nobody knows how smooth, soft and precise she is before trying one. And I'have owned a Fulawka D 10 and tried a Franklin D10, but this one is the top. |
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Posted 27 Feb 2015 2:37 am
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great one, jean-marie.
you`re right i`ve played gfi, sho-bud, emmons, wbs, mullen and franklin so far.
but the schild is...  |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 1 Mar 2015 9:58 pm Cost of Schild steels
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Per instruction, on his site, I wrote to Mr. Schild asking him prices for a D-10 and S-10 with pad. So far no response.
Does anybody out there know what these steels cost? Thx. stevet
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Posted 1 Mar 2015 11:38 pm
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hi steve,
peter schild is more of an introvert type of guy and propably not the fastest in mail reply.
i guess the price tag is higher than on an american top brand as f ex mullen or rittenberry.
and then you have to add the shipping...
schild thought about coming over to dallas or st louis but i don`t know if he ever will.
his guitars would be sold out quick i`m sure but i guess he`s more of a builder than a businessman.
sound and looks are subjective on a guitar of course but when it comes to mechanics and craftmanship , the schild is not matched by any other guitar i`ve seen.
if you sit behind one you`ll agree!  |
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Leo Grassl
From:
Madison TN
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Posted 4 Mar 2015 8:27 pm
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| Does anyone sell Schilds in the states? |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 4 Mar 2015 10:35 pm
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Hi, Norbert,
I emailed Peter again asking for prices but have heard nothing yet. Guess I'll keep on trying.
I don't doubt what you have to say about his craftsmanship is true but knowing the price is also important for anyone interested in buying a steel, unless one has lots and lots of money.
The Anapeg guitar (no longer made from what I understand) was also highly crafted. Do a search on The Forum if you do not know about it.
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Norbert Dengler
From:
germany
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 12:54 am
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i don`t think anybody sells schild in the states, i doubt that there even is one guitar in the country at all.
they´re rare most of "em are in switzerland and france i guess.
yes, steve, peter schild told me about anapeg guitars when i was visiting with him.
he said he never saw one in person but was impressed from what he saw on his website.
i`m sorry for you not having heard about him, he is a nice guy and a real genius.
keep on trying
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Norbert Dengler
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germany
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 12:54 am
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i don`t think anybody sells schild in the states, i doubt that there even is one guitar in the country at all.
they´re rare most of "em are in switzerland and france i guess.
yes, steve, peter schild told me about anapeg guitars when i was visiting with him.
he said he never saw one in person but was impressed from what he saw on his website.
i`m sorry for you not having heard about him, he is a nice guy and a real genius.
keep on trying
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Hans Holzherr
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Münchenbuchsee, Switzerland
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 1:11 am
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| Norbert, your double post notwithstanding .... There could actually be one Schild steel in the U.S. I remember Jürg Oswald telling me many years ago that an American player visiting Switzerland had bought a Schild. Unfortunately, we can no longer ask him who that person was. |
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Ruth Iseli-Dahler
From:
Switzerland
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Posted 30 Mar 2015 2:32 pm
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I could have taken one with me to Dallas.....
Would have loved to present a swiss steel there.
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2015 6:40 pm
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Interesting photo of their Antriebswelle / Zughebel (Drive Shaft / pull lever). The bell-crank has a wire return spring. The wire end contacts the underside of the cabinet. That might couple body resonance into the pull train. Certainly no accident. That stuff matters.
http://www.schildsteel.com/cms/index.php?page=G070011_de&lng=de
Schild's attention to detail is magnificent. Wish I spoke from hands on experience. |
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2015 6:43 pm
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| steve takacs wrote: |
| The Anapeg guitar (no longer made from what I understand) was also highly crafted. |
Tom Brumley's thought so. RESPECT! |
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Hans Holzherr
From:
Münchenbuchsee, Switzerland
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Posted 2 Apr 2015 6:22 am
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| Steve, I talked with Peter Schild yesterday, and he said that he sent you a price list. Please confirm, or let me know otherwise. |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 2 Apr 2015 12:42 pm Thanks Hans and Peter Schild
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Thanks Hans,
I did receive Peter Schild's price list. If I were living in Europe I'd probably buy one of his guitars.. They undoubtedly are well-engineered
I need to thank Peter for sending that list. steve t |
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