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John Booth


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Columbus Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2014 5:07 pm    
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I use a Goodrich L-120
I see so many Hiltons these days.
Are they really better?
If so, why?
Are there other vol pedals suited specifically for PSG?
Thanks
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Billy Easton

 

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Nashville, TN USA
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2014 5:12 pm    
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Telonics has them all beat in my opinion!

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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2014 6:28 pm    
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Telonics is, by reputation, better than the Hilton.
The Hilton is, by reputation, better than the Goodrich.
The Goodrich is good enough for Paul Franklin or Tommy White.
My neighbor has a Hilton. It's fine, but feels different from the Goodrich.
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2014 6:57 pm    
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In my experience, either the Hilton or Telonics VPs are great. Both are a vast improvement over other pedals.
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Jason Walker


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New South Wales, Australia
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2014 4:41 pm    
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I have both the Goodrich L-120 and a Hilton. I like both of them, but I do find the Goodrich 'feels' more natural.
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Brett Day


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Pickens, SC
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2014 7:24 pm    
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I use a Goodrich and it's been my choice of volume pedal since 2000. It's been the only volume pedal I've used, and still works great like it did fourteen years ago. It's worked great with all three of my steels, from my first steel, a 1974 student model Emmons, to the GFI Ultra D-10 "Redgold Beauty" and now stays under my current steel, my Jackson Blackjack Custom, "Black Diamond" steel.

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Kevin Edmonds

 

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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2014 9:19 am     my pedal started humming
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My volume pedal recently started humming and it seems to be getting worse. I'm assuming there is a pot that needs cleaned. Can anyone offer advice to someone that's never done this before?
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John Booth


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Columbus Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2014 10:25 am    
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It's pretty easy to buy a replacement pot and solder the 2 or 3 wires of the pedal to it.
Assuming you have a pot-pedal like most of us.
Buy a quality pot tho, and it shd last a very long time.
John
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 12 Dec 2014 10:39 am    
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I had a Hilton for a while and I will concede the signal was a touch cleaner than with my Goodrich pedals. I wouldn't want to live on the difference, though, and I eventually got tired of having so much stuff to plug in to the mains.

I'm back to the Goodrich and have a handful of them as reserves, too.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2014 12:54 am     Re: my pedal started humming
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Kevin Edmonds wrote:
My volume pedal recently started humming and it seems to be getting worse. I'm assuming there is a pot that needs cleaned. Can anyone offer advice to someone that's never done this before?


Pots do not hum. We can help you better if you tell us what kind of pedal you have. But most likely, you have a powered pedal that has a bad power supply.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2014 3:07 am    
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Might not a bad ground let a passive pedal pick up hum?
But I totally agree that a pot can't hum.
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Nova Scotia, Canada
Post  Posted 13 Dec 2014 4:05 am    
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Kevin. It coukd just be a patch cable going bad on you.

Plug your guitar straight into the amp which each cable individually first to rule out a faulty cable. If you dont have a hum with either cable but you do when the vol pedal is connected than youve got something goi g on inside the pedal could either be a short or a bad ground. Check all of your wiring with a mulit meter.

Now to the matter of light beam vs pot. Some people like like the feel of one over the other. Some people like the adding or subtracting in tone/clarity of one over the other. This is personnal preference. I tell you borrow one if you can and try it for a week to see if its for you.
In my opinion. I like the goodrich pot pedal the best. I had a hilton but to me it didnt have what I was looking for. Thats not to say they arent great pedals. Herby Wallace and John Hughey were hilton players to name a few.
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 14 Dec 2014 12:35 pm    
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pedals that have to be plugged in are an annoying pain in the butt.
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Kevin Edmonds

 

From:
Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2014 3:13 pm     Hum is NOT from the pedal
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Guys,

Thanks for the help in troubleshooting the hum I thought I had from my volume pedal. After following some tips I can report the hum is still present even I bypass all pedals and boxes.

When I plug the guitar (2014 Zum SD10) directly into the amp (Peavy 1000, original and never been out of the house since it was new) the hum is still present. I've swapped cords and the problem is still there.

Should I suspect the amp or guitar? What is the next step?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Nova Scotia, Canada
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2014 3:27 pm    
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Do you have an electric guitar you can try through the amp? If so try that first. If you have a hum still than its something in the amp. Also if you can borrow another amp of any kind. Plug the zum into that, if you have a hum in that scenario than you have an issue in the zum. Its a pain in the butt but thats the best way to trouble shoot.
If you determine that the guitar has an issue and you feeel you arent electronically incline than find someone who is knowledgeable in electric guitar electronics they should be able to find the problem.
99% of the time its an easy fix.
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Bob Moore

 

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N. Rose, New York
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2014 6:30 pm     Foot pedals
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what is the lowest height pedal? I have a original MSA pedal bought in about 1972 no problems just a it to high. Thanks for your help. Bob
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Jeffery Self


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Spring City,Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2014 8:19 pm    
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What say you???????? The Goodrich?????? pros/cons

Inquiring minds want to know! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Jack Hanson


From:
San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2014 10:50 pm    
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chris ivey wrote:
pedals that have to be plugged in are an annoying pain in the butt.

My sentiments exactly. Always have used either a Sho-Bud or an Emmons pot pedal with no complaints. Works for me.
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Marty Forrer

 

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New Zealand
Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 12:43 am     Re: Foot pedals
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Bob Moore wrote:
what is the lowest height pedal? I have a original MSA pedal bought in about 1972 no problems just a it to high. Thanks for your help. Bob

I have a lowly old Dunlop pot pedal, and it was too high. I took 5/8" off the back end tapering to 1/4" at the front end. I achieved this with a cut-off wheel on a disc grinder. They dont call me a butcher for nothing! LOL! It sits a lot better now.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 8:24 am    
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I still use the Fender pedal I bought in 1966. To me, it's the lowest pedal, the best shielded pedal, and the most reliable of all the pot pedals. And if it ever goes bad, I can fix it myself in a few minutes, so I never need to carry a spare. It operates very easy (easier then any of the ones with a "tension adjuster"), stays exactly where it is put every time, and it has the large foot-surface that I tend to like. I don't have to plug it in, and don't have to worry about a power supply going bad.

It works so well that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. Winking
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