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Topic: Franklin Pickup Options ? |
Bob Snelgrove
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Oct 2014 5:46 pm |
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710? ToneAligner?
I like the ToneAligner.
Or the TrueTone, if you like single coil.
Better yet, give Paul Sr a call and ask him for suggestions. He's a great guy to talk to.
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 13 Oct 2014 2:33 am
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My Franklin came with 705 pickups. I now have 710's but the only thing I gained (changed) with the 710's is a little more definition ("string spacing"). I still have my "Franklin tone". 705's are not known for being "thin". According to Mr Franklin, Paul uses 705's on most of his guitars (and 710's on the others) and you can't tell the difference listening to him. Paul's sound is not "thin" (and doesn't sound like an Emmons).
The Emmons has the Emmons sound and the Franklin has the Franklin sound. Just as a Zum has a Zum sound, Sho-Bud a Sho-Bud sound, etc.
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GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 12:39 pm
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I think the George L. E-66 might get you close or just try some other amp settings. Tommy White's tone on Nightlife playing Buck Rieds JCH with 705's is classic Black Album. Any or all parameters could be the factor ie; hands, guitar, amp etc.
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I thought Nashville was the roughest, but I know I’ve said the same about them all.
I received my education, drivin through the Nation listenin to Paul!.. ( Franklin that is! ) |
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Dale Rivard
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 3:02 pm
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Bob, Don't you dare change the pickups in my guitar! Just kidding.  Seriously though, in my opinion, sonically, a Franklin with humbuckers will never sound exactly like a pushpull with single coils. I agree with Mike. Slight EQ adjustments can make a difference.
Hi Mike, Long time no see. I hope all is well with you! |
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 3:32 pm
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The real deep truth is, your sound is in your hands, just develope your technique. Hi Dale! Been a very long time, life is good here, hope you're doing great also.
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I thought Nashville was the roughest, but I know I’ve said the same about them all.
I received my education, drivin through the Nation listenin to Paul!.. ( Franklin that is! ) |
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Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 20 Oct 2014 4:03 pm
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It's nice to play an instrument that functions so smoothly mechanically, you'll dial it in.. Enjoy!!
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I thought Nashville was the roughest, but I know I’ve said the same about them all.
I received my education, drivin through the Nation listenin to Paul!.. ( Franklin that is! ) |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Oct 2014 2:18 am
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I went from a 71 Emmons D-10 PP (black of course) to my D-10 Franklin, with 705 pickups. After one day with the Franklin I didn't miss the Emmons or the Emmons sound. The Emmons was sold within 2 weeks.
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GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings
Cakewalk by Bandlab and Studio One V4.6 pro DAWs, MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit |
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Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Oct 2014 6:57 am
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If they are too bright, move the slightly further away from the strings and it may help.
I'm not sure about the 705's, but if the 710's are too close they can get too bright.
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GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings
Cakewalk by Bandlab and Studio One V4.6 pro DAWs, MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit |
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Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 21 Oct 2014 8:48 am
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I think the spacing should be the thickness of a US Quarter, place one on the pickup and adjust the screws until the quarter touches the strings.
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I thought Nashville was the roughest, but I know I’ve said the same about them all.
I received my education, drivin through the Nation listenin to Paul!.. ( Franklin that is! ) |
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Dean Holman
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Branson MO
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 2:17 pm
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| I think with Lawrence pickups the spacing needs to be about 2 quarters in thickness between the strings and the pickup. It's because those pickups are so much hotter than other pickups. |
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Mike Holder
From:
Alabama! Home of the great “Don Helms” & his singer “Hank Williams”!
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 2:49 pm
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I'll buy that! Hi Dean, glad you're doing well after your bike accident. Saw your post on your Rittenberry, glad you love it.. Bet you sound great!!... Mike
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I thought Nashville was the roughest, but I know I’ve said the same about them all.
I received my education, drivin through the Nation listenin to Paul!.. ( Franklin that is! ) |
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Dean Holman
From:
Branson MO
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Posted 22 Oct 2014 3:18 pm
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Thanks Mike,
I'm doing okay. I do love that new Ritt. I hope your doing good as well. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 23 Oct 2014 2:16 am
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The Lawrence 705's, the original pickups on my Franklin, were set about one quarter thickness from the strings when the guitar was delivered new.
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GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings
Cakewalk by Bandlab and Studio One V4.6 pro DAWs, MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit |
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Dean Holman
From:
Branson MO
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Posted 23 Oct 2014 9:39 am
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| Bob, you adjust the pickups to what sounds best to you. It doesn't matter, in my opinion there is no set rule however, I wouldn't lower the pickups too much but it will depend on what sound you like the best. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Dale Rivard
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 23 Oct 2014 3:15 pm
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| Hi Bob, I avoid placing my amp up on something or tilting it whenever possible. I find I get a truer sense of the tone in the room this way. Plus, I can play louder if need be and the highs(if they're somewhat sharp)aren't right in my ears. I think the original BL 705's are a great match in a Franklin. But, if you're not happy you can sell the steel back to me for the price you paid for it. Happy Pickin' |
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Rene Brosseau
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Chatham,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 23 Oct 2014 7:50 pm Franklin
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Dale...I was taking you serious for a minute there when you said don't you dare touch that pickup! Haha..is that the beautiful blue Franklin you sold before I had a chance to buy it? Bob...I'll buy it for more than Dale sold it...hehe!...love my George L in my '89 Franklin...Rene
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Franklin #130, Melobar Skreemer, Wechter Scheerhorn Resonator, Nashville 112, Boss DD 3 &/or Profex II |
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Bob Snelgrove
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san jose, ca
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Dale Rivard
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Oct 2014 7:12 am
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| Hey Rene, Bob has the red (maroon) guitar. TC Furlong bought the blue one. When I put BL 710 pickups in the blue guitar, it seemed to come to life a little more. But, every guitar is different. I know yours sounds great with a GL pickup. |
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Dale Rivard
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 24 Oct 2014 7:39 am
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| Bob, The best way I can describe it is, there was more clarity in the midrange and lower register and a sparkle on the higher strings. The blue guitar originally came with GL PF 2 pickups. Shortly after, I switched them to GL PF 1s, which I found better. But, after I changed to BL 710's, I noticed even more definition and string separation. Just a cleaner, clearer tone. |
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