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Topic: Proposed Copedent |
Rich Peterson
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Posted 6 May 2014 6:09 am |
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Trying to implement Mike Seigler's C6 pedal into a double raise-double lower MSA, along with the Franklin pedal divided between foot and knee. Used Zane King's "C" pedal.
What am I overlooking?
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Alan Bidmade
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Newcastle upon Tyne UK
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Posted 6 May 2014 8:07 am
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Don't you need E somewhere to go with changes on P5?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 May 2014 11:34 am
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Strings 4 and 8?
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 6 May 2014 11:39 am
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I'm assuming you are combining P4 & P5 to get a C6th. I think I would opt to lower string 3 on your P4 to G so I would have the high G that some still use on their C6th neck.
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 6 May 2014 1:27 pm
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Or perhaps raise string 1 for the "G." I'll need an additional bellcrank for that.
Do my right knees give me pedal 6? I wanted the low "F" from the C6, although it's in the wrong octave.
The constraint of a double/double changer is the reason for using two pedals to get the C6. It's actually pedals 0 through 4, so CAB aren't way to the right. |
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Les Cargill
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Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
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Posted 6 May 2014 3:07 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Strings 4 and 8? |
I'd presume RKL and RKR have a typo apiece... |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 6 May 2014 3:23 pm
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| Les Cargill wrote: |
| I'd presume RKL and RKR have a typo apiece... |
For use with P4+P5, RKR is the C6th P6. RKL is a popular C6th lever as well. Clever.
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 6 May 2014 4:44 pm
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| How do you like the mirrored e raises and e lowers? Looks interesting would love to hear it played. |
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Les Cargill
From:
Oklahoma City, Ok, USA
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Posted 6 May 2014 4:54 pm
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| b0b wrote: |
| Les Cargill wrote: |
| I'd presume RKL and RKR have a typo apiece... |
For use with P4+P5, RKR is the C6th P6. RKL is a popular C6th lever as well. Clever. |
Dang, that is clever. Missed it by *this* much  |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 6 May 2014 5:17 pm Re: Proposed Copedent
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| Rich Peterson wrote: |
Trying to implement Mike Seigler's C6 pedal into a double raise-double lower MSA, along with the Franklin pedal divided between foot and knee. Used Zane King's "C" pedal.
What am I overlooking?
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I'm very used to having the 4th string E to F# on LKV, emulating the "C" pedal. If you did that, you could have the standard "Franklin" lowers (middle B to A, middle G# to F#) on P2, and maybe even add the low B to A on P1.
Just a thought. I like what you've done, but having 2 pedals that raise 3 and 6 seems unnecessary to me.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 6 May 2014 5:27 pm
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The big thing that's missing from the P4+P5 C6th mode is the D9th chord. You would need to lower the G note back down to F# while keeping both C notes. This is a very important part of the standard C6th pedal steel sound. I'm not sure how you could do that. 
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 6 May 2014 6:44 pm
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| The big thing that's missing from the P4+P5 C6th mode is the D9th chord. You would need to lower the G note back down to F# while keeping both C notes. This is a very important part of the standard C6th pedal steel sound. I'm not sure how you could do that. |
Perhaps moving the 8th string raise on P3 to LKL. Combined with RKL, there's a C#9th.
Well, tomorrow I tear the guitar apart and set it up like this. Then try to play Texas licks. |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 6 May 2014 7:35 pm
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| How do you like the mirrored e raises and e lowers? Looks interesting would love to hear it played. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 May 2014 7:53 pm
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I agree, B0b, but the corner slant could do that.
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