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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 2:30 pm    
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Could someone explain the purpose of this lever. Especially what strings to use the first string with. Thank you
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 2:54 pm    
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Conversely, I don't have this raise. Someone please tell me not to worry.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 2:57 pm    
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First and foremost, with your A & B pedals down, it gives you an A7 chord. With strings 4,5,8,10 (any 2 of those and the G note, you get an Em. I use it a lot in some "bluesy" type licks. I have this lever, but don't think it is a necessary lever.
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 3:03 pm    
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With strings 5-2-1, you have an augmented chord.
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Danny Bates

 

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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 6:04 pm    
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I use it a lot for playing melodies (with thirds) up and down the neck.

E + G = min 3rd

E + G# = MAJ 3rd
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 6:40 pm    
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You'll have more fun if you raise both of those F#'s to G#.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2014 7:47 pm    
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I also raise 1 to G#. Use it more that the F# to G lever, and that is not very much. But they are there if I want them.
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Dave Grafe


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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2014 12:07 am    
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Not to worry, Ian, I don't have it either Cool
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2014 1:52 am    
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Thanks Dave, I feel better now.
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Ron Pruter

 

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Post  Posted 12 Apr 2014 2:03 pm    
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I have a half step ,feel stop, on that change that gives me the best of both words.
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Jim Priebe

 

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Post  Posted 12 Apr 2014 5:01 pm    
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I'm with what Richard posted.
I guess if you just play country scales all the time and no blues scales you wouldn't need it.
It is so easy to use on an up lever contra to the AB pedals - you can even 'bend' with the lever.
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Post  Posted 12 Apr 2014 6:48 pm    
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That change is ok but its limited on its own.. Raise string 1 a full tone.. You can use a "feel" stop at the 1/2 tone point, but there is no need.. In no time at all you will be able to hit that 1/2 tone perfectly.
I have never had a feel stop on that pull, and always get a perfect G..
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 14 Apr 2014 10:44 am    
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IMHO, the best use of the lever and the A pedal is that it gives you the first inversion of the E chord at the 3rd fret. So:
open: E
3rd fret A+F: E, first inversion
7th fret A+B: E, second inversion
It give you a pocket around the 3rd fret:
A+F - E,
open 5th fret - A,
open 7th fret - B,
etc.
plus the A7 mentioned above. It's discussed in the Winston book.
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Brint Hannay

 

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Post  Posted 14 Apr 2014 11:30 am    
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Jack, you seem to be talking about the "F" lever--the one that raises strings 4 & 8 a half step (to F--or E# for the purists).

This thread is about the lever that raises strings 1 & 7 a half step.
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Jack Aldrich

 

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Post  Posted 14 Apr 2014 8:15 pm    
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Brint Hannay wrote:
Jack, you seem to be talking about the "F" lever--the one that raises strings 4 & 8 a half step (to F--or E# for the purists).

This thread is about the lever that raises strings 1 & 7 a half step.

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Will Cowell

 

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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2014 4:58 am    
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Ron,

I started out with a raise to G from F#, and the dom 7ths were really great, but recently I tried the whole step raise on 1, coupled with the lower 6th string by a half step. That allows me to do some licks I couldn't do before. But I still hankered after that half tone raise on 1.

So now, like you, I have a half step feel stop and get the whole tone raise if I push on through. Best of both worlds.

Nobody mentions the nice scale passage you can get with A & F when you use the half step raise on 1, played together with the 2nd string. That's worth having.
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2014 5:50 am    
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I have the 1st string raising to G#, along with raising the 2nd string to E and lowering the 6th string to F# (and split with B pedal).

I have the 7th raising to G with the same knee that lowers the 2nd string and lowers the 9th string.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2014 6:40 am    
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Raising the 1st and 7th strings a whole tone adds a ton of new sounds to the E9th tuning. Check out the link below. I added the last item in the table recently (Tab 657).


E9th with 1st and 7th string raise tabs with sound files
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 24 Apr 2014 9:35 am    
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I tried using a half stop (feel stop) on string one, but I need to hit that G note really quick some times and the feel stop wasn't accurate enough. The sam with the feel stop on my 2nd string. I took the feel stop off, made the knee lever on the 2nd string lower go all the way to C# and put the D note on my 2nd left knee left. That way I can have a positive, in tune D on string 2. My lever that lowers 2 to C# also has a resistance that happens around the D note because of 2 other changes I have on the same lever. I can use that when I want a quick D note on string 2.

Tab:

   LKL1  LKL2  LKV  LKR  1  2  3  4  RKL   RKR
F#..............G.................G#
D#..D.............................E..C#
G#..........................A
E........D#..........F..F#
B.......................C#.....C#
G#..........................A..............F#
F#.............G
E........D#..........F
D....................................C#
B.............................C#

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