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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 9 Mar 2014 8:59 pm    
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Not only did the Kline have a great keyless design, but the vertical knee levers had a spring loaded "hinge" that allowed you to fold it up into the bottom of the guitar for packing it in the case. Boy I sure miss my Kline. Crying or Very sad
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Daryl Thisdelle

 

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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2014 6:55 pm     Keyless
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I have a Williams 12 Sting Universal keyless and would not have it any other way. I do not have the problems most of you guys talk about when restringing. It is so simple. Check out Bills design, a no brainer to change strings. Easy and it child's play....



Daryl
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John Polstra


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Lopez Island, WA, USA
Post  Posted 29 Mar 2014 7:29 pm    
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Daryl, on the Williams do you have to pull the string up close to pitch by hand, or can you just snug it up before tuning it up to pitch?

John
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 29 Mar 2014 9:36 pm    
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Kline is the best.
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Dustin Rigsby


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Post  Posted 30 Mar 2014 6:55 pm     Joe Kline
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John,I heard that Joe was going to start building guitars again. Is this true ?
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2014 6:34 am    
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John Polstra wrote:
Daryl, on the Williams do you have to pull the string up close to pitch by hand, or can you just snug it up before tuning it up to pitch?

John


Just snug it up, and tune. The Williams has plenty of block to pull the string to pitch. Smile
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John Polstra


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Lopez Island, WA, USA
Post  Posted 31 Mar 2014 8:00 am    
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Jim Bob Sedgwick wrote:

Just snug it up, and tune. The Williams has plenty of block to pull the string to pitch. Smile


I want one!
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Steve Lipsey


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jul 2014 10:40 am    
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Just got my new Williams keyless...been playing Williams keyed guitars for about 3 years...the keyless is pretty wonderful...keyed Williams action is already better than most guitars, but this keyless is stunning - virtually effortless pedals and levers, crisp short throws...essentially no cabinet drop, lowers return to pitch, sound is very "clear" is a way I can't articulate..glad you all persuaded me to jump from keys...I had a GFI keyless some years ago and didn't really like it, for a number of reasons...but the Williams is the one for me...

Was happy that it is even lighter than the keyed guitar, but it turns out that the current Williams case is a lot heavier than the previous one (both ATA road cases) for some unknown reason...so an order Kevin Hatton was placed....

QUESTION: Any clever, elegant solutions for a tool for cranking the tuning block back all the way to starting position when changing strings?

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John Billings


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Post  Posted 2 Jul 2014 10:52 am    
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What kinda screws? Allen head? If so, get the right-sized Allen head screwdriver, cut the blade shorter, You can also cut the plastic handle shorter.
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Steve Lipsey


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jul 2014 11:44 am    
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Sort of looking for something easy to spin/crank, while not losing pressure to keep it on the bolt (3/16, just like nylon tuners)
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jul 2014 12:35 pm    
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When I had a Williams, I used a little Black&Decker electric screwdriver with the appropriate hex bit. Zip Zip. Mr. Green
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Larry Allen


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Post  Posted 2 Jul 2014 3:08 pm     Keyless
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I use this on the 3 rd, the rest with a dowel. Larry


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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 7 Jul 2014 2:56 pm    
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I use a 3/16 inch nut driver.
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Dwight Lewis


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Huntsville, Alabama
Post  Posted 9 Jul 2014 8:17 pm     Keyless Tuner
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It would be nice if the tuning screws were spring loaded.Not tensioned to the point of causing tuning issues.

M.O.
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Will Cowell

 

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Cambridgeshire, UK
Post  Posted 10 Jul 2014 3:01 am    
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I recall that in March Sonny Jenkins promised us an update on his experiences with the homebrew keyless tuner.

Does anyone know how that worked out?
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Sonny Jenkins


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Post  Posted 10 Jul 2014 4:53 am    
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Hey Will,,,yes,,,I was making that tuner for a Carter S12,,,,but when I got a chance to get a Lamar back that I let go several years ago, I sold the Carter,,,with it's original keyhead intact. I still have the keyless keyhead,,,if anyone is interested,,???

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=267828
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