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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2013 11:15 pm    
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Hi everybody,

Thinking about my next build... I want to (I'd like to ) build a woody squareneck tricone, just like the one built by Mike Lewis in France:
http://www.fineresophonic.com/triplate4m.htm

It sounds great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esH4E21m0BM

Do you think that a weissenborn conception would be OK? As the neck is a hollow one, there is no neck stick, so... soundposts and mushrooms?

I would use laminate as building material, instead of plain maple, as I dont own a bending iron...

Every help is welcome Smile

Thanks,

Xavier


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Peter Jacobs


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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2013 7:49 am    
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Xavier - sorry, I can't be any help from a building perspective, but I wanted you to know that this is a really cool project. The sound of that squareneck tricone in the video is fantastic. I imagine that a hollow neck would add to the "airiness", although it might also affect sustain and "punch" in some way.
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Mike D

 

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Post  Posted 21 Feb 2013 8:01 am    
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I've built several, all with neck sticks and no posts.

Here's one. Lousy recording and player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqq1jm-Wfvc

and here's a better recording, played though a Humphries amp by someone that knows what they're doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho6MPYj65F8&playnext=1&list=PL2EE8A03FC0A97969&feature=results_main
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2013 12:57 pm    
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Mike D wrote:
I've built several, all with neck sticks and no posts.

Here's one. Lousy recording and player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqq1jm-Wfvc



But great instrument!
Can you explain "how to" use a neck stick in a weissenborn-style guitar?
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2013 3:09 pm    
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Thanks.

Basically it's built like a regular Weiss but the top is extra thick (3/16") and I glue in a large brace that runs from the head block to the tail block. It's glued to the underside of the fretboard area and runs under and supports the cone well.

You can see part of it in the 2nd video at about :46
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2013 8:56 pm    
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Mike, do you think it would accomodate to a "standard" National squareneck shape?
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 22 Feb 2013 7:16 am    
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Sure, it wouldn't matter what body shape. If you email me I think I can scrounge up some better pics.
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 28 Apr 2013 10:23 pm    
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Hey guys,

The building process is on the way:

The shape:



I worked with the help of a DWG drawing sent by Freeman Keller for the body, and Mike D for the neck stick weissenborn conception.

Do you think I can build the neck stick with marine quality laminate?



I built a mold from several layers of laminate and hardwood:



The wood is tasmanian blackwood:


The top(4.5 mm thick):

(will be mostly hidden by coverplate/fretboard/grills:





I made my very first bending attempts, seems to be OK:



The big problems will come when it will be time to bend to shape the back, as it has to be jointed AND glued AND bent... any ideas?

Thanks,

Xavier
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2013 7:12 am    
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Wow that's looking great. I like the acrylic routing pattern.

No problem with a laminate neck stick that I can see.

I know I've seen Mike Lewis (Fine Resophonic) with backs like the one in you plans but I've never done them that way. I just give mine a simple taper like Weissenborn did.
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Gregg McKenna

 

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South Windsor, Connecticut, USA
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2013 4:32 pm    
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Very nice work.
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 26 May 2013 10:13 pm    
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Hi guys,

I did some more works:








Xavier
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 27 May 2013 5:39 am    
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Nice, it's coming along great!
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Michael Kienhofer

 

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Goulais River,Ontario,Canada
Post  Posted 27 May 2013 7:29 am    
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Waiting to see pics of bending the back ! Great job by the way !
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 27 May 2013 3:02 pm    
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Thanks Very Happy

How would you proceed to bend... back... and back bindings? (plain wood) Sad
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 9:42 am    
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Myself I'd just go with a gradual taper.
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 12:45 pm    
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Mike, how thick is your neckstick?
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 1:46 pm    
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If you mean width, it's .75" and .50" at the ends where it notches into the head and tail blocks.
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 2:04 pm    
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Thank you Mike.
Do you think I'd rather use plain wood instead of laminate for the sound? Dont you think that a laminate neck stick would mute the sound? Mine will have the same heigth than the whole guitar's body to reinforce the back (and the back's joint).
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 2:56 pm    
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I don't think it would make a bit of difference sound-wise, but solid wood is easier to work with.

Why do you need it to touch the back? You can run a strip down the center joint to reinforce it and brace the back like an acoustic. At least that's how I do mine.
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 28 May 2013 3:46 pm    
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I think it will depend how the back bends, but I'll think about that option. If the bent part of the back looks strong enough, I could brace it as an acoustic.
Thank for your help Very Happy
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 12 Jun 2013 3:44 pm    
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Some new pictures:



Fingerboard and soundwell almost finished:















Xavier
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Michael Kienhofer

 

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Goulais River,Ontario,Canada
Post  Posted 12 Jun 2013 3:55 pm    
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Great work keep it up !
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Mike D

 

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Phx, Az
Post  Posted 13 Jun 2013 5:48 am    
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Beautiful work!
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Alan Brookes


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Brummy living in Southern California
Post  Posted 13 Jun 2013 3:24 pm    
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Truly inspiring workmanship. Cool
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Xavier Baron

 

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Mahina, Tahiti
Post  Posted 21 Jun 2013 7:52 pm    
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Hi guys,

Some more pictures of the back bending process:




I used a steam iron



Let's rest in the mold for a couple of days?

Top trimmed:



Xavier
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