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Topic: Nickle vs Stainless steel strings, pros and cons |
Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Georg SΓΈrtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 24 Jul 2011 11:32 am
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I use stainless wound, except for the (extended) low E which is .056 Nickel Wound.
On my preferred PSG the mix gives a pretty even tone-characteristic down the strings without getting unwanted bar- and picking-noise on the lowest. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2011 11:49 am
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When I was gigging 5 hours a night, 5/6 days a week, I used stainless on my Kline Uni. Although pretty bright for the first few days, they held their tone much longer. Changed them every 4/5 weeks, couple more times for the 3rd and 4th strings. Those two strings would get changed if I had to touch up their tuning more than 2/3 times a night. Since I quit gigging, nickel is fine for at home. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 24 Jul 2011 12:49 pm
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I've used George L's primarily since George L's were introduced on my D-10 Franklin. They are SS (wound strings). Second choice is the GHS Super Steels which are also SS wound.
I've tried almost every brand, including the Franklin and Jagwires, but keep coming back to the George L's.
I like the tone and they tend to last a little longer than Nickel, although I do change mine fairly often. Currently I'm only playing once a week so I can get two months out of the strings before they start losing the "zing". When I was doing road work with Nashville singers, I would change strings after about 10 shows (about 20 hours of playing time) which kept the strings "fresh" and also eliminated any broken strings on stage. _________________ GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings
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Ron Randall
From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2011 6:30 pm
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GHS Pure Nickel Rollerwounds have the tone pleasing to my ear.
Stainless strings are too bright for me and too "zippy" on the strings.
One opinion.
Ron |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 24 Jul 2011 8:12 pm
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after 40 years of playing, i don't really know the difference. i buy singles at the music store. these were usually ghs boomers which i guess were nickel. now the stores all have d'addarios...no idea what they are. before all that it was ernie balls. |
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Fred Thompson
From: Zephyrhills, FL
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 4:37 am
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I used Emmons strings for quite a while but got fed up with folks thinking I was the Big E. Then I switched to Jagwire "Paul Franklin". Now they come up and say;"Dang Paul, playing that thing has really aged ya".
I DO buy my strings on the FORUM _________________ The difference between a musician and a savings bond is eventually the bond will mature and earn money. |
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Bill Miller
From: Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 4:57 am
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I use nickel wound strings because I prefer and the sound and I find them gentler on my chrome plated bars. |
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Don Sulesky
From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 5:01 am
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Fred, Always the kidder.
I've been using GHS SS for over 10 years and they stay in tune and last a lot longer than the many brands I used before the GHS.
I aso use the GHS Boomers on my Tele & Strat guitars.
Don _________________ Private one on one lessons available
Member: FSGC, PSGA, TSGA
Co-founder: Florida Steel Guitar Club
"Steel guitar is like playing chess in the dark with three players". Jeff Newman quote from 1997 seminar |
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Charlie Moore
From: Deville, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 6:11 am Strings
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I have used all kinds in 30 years but my choice is D'Addarios(nickel wound),they last seems like forever but they are VERY hard to find in nickel,I can find SS every where,If anybody knows who has the nickel please let me know...Charlie... _________________ Use it up,wear it out,make it do,or do without..... |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 6:40 am
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Nickle strings have a richer, fuller tone and the bar slides over them easier than with stainless strings.
Last edited by Erv Niehaus on 25 Jul 2011 7:34 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jay Fagerlie
From: Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 7:23 am
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Nickel everywhere I can.
I like the sound....warmer, fuller...balanced low to high.
I think the older pickups sound better with nickel strings.
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 9:14 am
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To my ears, Bobbe Seymour's Cobra Coil strings are a happy medium between nickle-wound and stainless-wound. |
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Jeremy Craft
From: Portland, Oregon
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 10:27 am
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I've long preferred the warmer sound of nickel wound strings over stainless. I used the Jagwire nickel set on my Carter Starter, and got really good tone. I'm not sure what's on the E9 side of my ZB; the C6 set is the Cobra Coils, which are stainless, and it sounds pretty darn good.
Stainless lasts longer in my experience, but the first week is pretty piercing and zingy until they break in. Nickel has the tone I'm looking for from the get go, but they must be changed more frequently before they begin to sound too dull.
I lucked into forty or so free sets of GHS Boomers for my six strings, so I've been using them even though they're nickel plated steel, which I can't stand. They get all rusty and crappy really quickly. Wouldn't have touched them if they weren't free. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 10:52 am
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In order to keep my strings in shape, I use this product every time after I get through playing.
It gets the crud off them and helps keep them fresh.
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 11:28 am
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I've always just bought loose Ernie Ball strings, and have no idea what they are made of. But since I have 2 identical steels, I'm gong to get a set of each and see which one I prefer.
I think after I decide which of those 2 I like, I'll replace the loser with a set of Cobra Coils and make the same test. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
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Elton Smith
From: Texas, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2011 11:47 am
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I use nickel.I've tried ss on my regular guitars and didn't like the way they felt.They also left a black mark on my fingers and had a rattle I didn't care for.So i just stuck to nickel.I use John Pierce when I can find them ,and they sound great and last a long time.Strings for a steel guitar seem to be harder to find .Even on the forum. _________________ Gibson Les Paul
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2011 11:57 am
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Mike Perlowin wrote: |
I've always just bought loose Ernie Ball strings, and have no idea what they are made of. |
Ernie Ball singles from your local music store are nickel wound. _________________ -πππ- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 26 Jul 2011 12:30 pm
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I tried Jagwires from the forum, but some of the plain strings were tarnished slightly. (Must have been a faulty batch). I have used Cobra Coils for the last 2 years but in answer to the initial question, I prefer stainless steel over nickel. _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Fred Thompson
From: Zephyrhills, FL
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Posted 27 Jul 2011 6:15 pm
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I prefer nickel for the tone and I also use "Fast Fret". Cleans the strings and reduces bar drag.
Fred _________________ The difference between a musician and a savings bond is eventually the bond will mature and earn money. |
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mike nolan
From: Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2011 10:52 pm
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Nickel. Less bar noise, slightly smoother, easier pulls, and I like the tone more. |
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2011 12:48 am
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Stainless Jagwires on both the Emmons and the Bud. |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2011 3:53 am
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Nickel. Especially for any rock type of playing, there's high "pinging" sort of sound from stainless that can't be eliminated by the usual EQ tricks. The only SS strings I've ever liked have been really old ones, and as yet I haven't found a place to buy relic'd strings... |
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Posted 28 Jul 2011 4:58 am
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I always use stainless because they stay lively longer.
My hands ooze salty, corrosive sweat. Nickel strings last about a week. Stainless is much more resistant to the sweat but will still tarnish. I always wipe the strings down after playing, either with a clean cloth or (preferably) a Blitz cloth. If I do, a stainless set can last a month of 2-3 gigs/wk.
As others have mentioned, stainless steel is harder than nickel steel and often has burrs from the manufacturing / wrapping process. One trick that evens the playing field for me is to take a piece of crocus cloth and LIGHTLY sand the outside of the wound strings before putting them on. Crocus is a very fine grit abrasive on a cloth backing that machinists use to debur their work.
One more note -- a stainless bar on stainless strings tends to cause friction or drag. A chrome plated bar solves that problem for me. _________________ Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
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