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Lee Gustafson
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Mohawk Michigan, USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2010 6:48 pm |
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| Has anyone tried playing a steel through the new Fender Mustang II? It has a 12 inch speaker and has several Fender amp settings. |
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Lee Gustafson
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Mohawk Michigan, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2010 9:00 am
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| It models a 57 Deluxe, 59 Bassman, 65 Twin Reverb, Supersonic plus four others with three presets for each, for a total of 24 presets. It comes with Fender Fuse software with unlimited preset storage. They say that the amp really shines when connected to the software. There are demos on youtube. I was hoping someone has tried how a steel sounds through this unit. With a twelve inch speaker, shouldn't this work good for practice or small venues? |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Papa Joe Pollick
From:
Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 11 Dec 2010 10:33 am
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I won a Mustang 2 on the TDPRI raffle this year.It kinda sounds like the vintage amps but it's still SS..I had no use for it so it left home..I am addicted to tubes,no doubt..  |
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James Quackenbush
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Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2010 10:32 am
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| I got the smaller Mustang I amp with the 8" speaker, and while it isn't a full fledged Pedal Steel Amp, it's fine for a practice amp .....The models in it are great for guitar work too !!....Again , how much pedal steel sound are you going to get from an 8" speaker ? ..... This thing would make a great little lap steel amp !!....It's really a pretty good sounding amp for what it is .....Jim |
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Steve Hotra
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Camas, Washington
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 3:53 pm
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I own a Fender Mustang 2 and am really happy with it. The Mustang 2 has a 12" speaker.
I bought one with the sole purpose of late night practicing.
But it has turned into my 2nd gigging amp ( for small venues.
The Fender Fuse program unlocks the secrets of this amp.
The Twin Reverb setting does really well with my pedal steel.
The Mustang handles guitar pedals very well and the mini USB makes recording pretty easy.
They are releasing a III, IV and V with more options.
YMMV
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 2:22 am
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It's hard for me to imagine how a little 40 watt solid state amp could sound remotely like a 65 Twin Reverb or a 59 Bassman. Those amps fill the room - they are a presence.
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exactly
I would ask..
how does a $199 SS amp parallel probably the two most famous tube amps of all time ?
easy answer
marketing
I see "Pawn Shop " item in the near future...
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Cartwright Thompson
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 5:20 pm
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I see a great little practise/rehearsal/"hazardous duty" amp for cheap money.
Especially when they start turning up on the used market. |
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Stephen Abruzzo
From:
Philly, PA
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 7:24 pm
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| Tony Prior wrote: |
I would ask..
how does a $199 SS amp parallel probably the two most famous tube amps of all time ?
easy answer
marketing
I see "Pawn Shop " item in the near future... |
Not so fast there. The Mustang I and II are garnering rave reviews. Similar in a sense as to how the Fender SCXD won rave reviews for it's excellent modeling.
Are they as good as the real thing? NO, but they do a darn good job at "emulating" the classic amp models, in much the same way that the Digitech RP and Line 6 Pods do. |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 1:45 am
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There is also the Mustang III 112 combo which is rated at 100 watts. The Mustang IV is a 212 stereo combo rated at 75 watts per side, and the Mustang V is the head version.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 3:20 am
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ok I'll play..
which of these 100 watt amps is uhhhh..actually 100 watts ?
this one selling for $299...
or this one, selling for $1700 without the cab..
I mean come-on. They are both 100 watts, aren't they ?
100 watts is 100 watts..isn't it ?
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 11:23 am
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You are Un-American. No corporation could get away with lying in their ads, because it would be WRONG.  |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 11:36 am
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There is a big difference in how peak levels are handled in solid state vs. tube amps, Tony. While both are 100 watts, the tube amp can get much louder and still sound musical. When the attack of a note exceeds the peak on a solid state amp, it clips and sounds really harsh and ugly. With a tube amp, there is a kind of natural compression that happens.
This means that you can play much louder with a 100 watt tube amp than with a 100 watt solid state amp.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 3:50 pm
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thanks for the update Bob...
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Matthew Carlin
From:
Lake County, IL.
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 6:50 pm
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The Mustang series was designed to sell against the line6 spyder amps. Its slowly replacing the Frontman series as fenders small affordable practice amps. They just released the a few more higher wattage versions this week. They sound pretty nice and the modeling features are really easy to dial, no tiny little screens to stare at. It can interface with the pc and comes with free software and updates but you dont' have to use them to use the amp. The cabs were designed to sound more like a studio monitor than a "guitar amp", its like your listening to a Twin on the stereo rather than playing through one. All and all no a bad little guy for $199. I would have been geeked to have this as my 1st amp when I was a kid.
I'll be keeping my SPLit though 
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 9:50 pm
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The small box Marshall heads are only 50 watts.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 13 Jan 2011 2:36 pm
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well this add
Marshall 1959SLP
100W Classic Super Lead Plexiglass Guitar Amp Head Reissue with New True Bypass Series Effects Loop
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 are listed together
The 1987 Plexi is 50 watts, the 1959 Plexi is 100 watts and shares the same box/chassis, The JMP series used the same chassis and there were two versions as well, 50 and 100..
I have a JCM900, 50 watts.love it to death...
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 13 Jan 2011 4:18 pm
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I've had JMP MKII series 50W and 100W, and you're right, same box and chassis, however the 100W had a vent on top, the 50W did not.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 13 Jan 2011 9:18 pm
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| I've had JMP MKII series 50W and 100W, and you're right, same box and chassis, however the 100W had a vent on top, the 50W did not. |
With the 100 watt Marshall amps, the building needs to be vented !
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 14 Jan 2011 12:07 am
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| Tony Prior wrote: |
The 1987 Plexi is 50 watts, the 1959 Plexi is 100 watts and shares the same box/chassis, The JMP series used the same chassis and there were two versions as well, 50 and 100.. |
The 1987 50 watter was in a small box up until the early 1970s. The only reason why the 1959 100 watter was in a bigger box was because the chassis is longer to accommodate the extra tubes.
During the early 1970s Marshall standardized production and put 50 watt chassis into the larger head boxes.
The vintage reissue 1987 50 watt model comes in a small box just like the original 1960s version.
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| I have a JCM900, 50 watts.love it to death... |
The JCM 900 50 watt and 100 watt heads use the same chassis and head box.
As for the Fender Mustang, I'd like to try out one of the larger ones - either the III, IV, or V. If they can do a good Marshall tone, it might be worth buying one.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 14 Jan 2011 1:46 am
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Leslie, for sure, my 900 is a BIG box and a BIG chassis ! Looking back at around 1965 or so, as written, it appears that the 50 watt chassis was upgraded to the 100 watt larger chassis to accommodate two 50 watt transformers as well as two more power tubes. Like Fender, it appears that from around that point , maybe a bit later, all chassis were the same, holes for tubes were there but no tubes ! My 67 Showman head is the same as my early 70's Bandmaster head, but the BM only has obviously two power tubes, but the holes are there for the "missing " two. My 900 has the holes for the extra tubes, someone got smart back then, one chassis does all.
In your avatar, which Marshall is behind you ? I plan to use my 900 ( hi gain dual reverb) with a 4x12 cab this weekend, Steel and Telecaster. The bottom end is astonishing in the A channel.
with regard to the Mustangs, I dunno...I'll wait and be the last one to the party as usual. About a year back I bought one of the Chinese Fender Frontman 65's, I returned it within 48 hours. I can't see the Mustangs being much different given the same price structure. But, as my wife would tell you, I've been wrong before !
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Tom Wolverton
From:
Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 14 Jan 2011 8:45 pm the big Mustang
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I heard the 2-12, 150 Watt Mustang amp today at NAMM. It was quite impressive. It could imitate a Twin Reverb quite nicely. Not for everyone. But much nicer sounding than anything Line6 has ever put out, IMO.
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 15 Jan 2011 12:21 am
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| Tony Prior wrote: |
| In your avatar, which Marshall is behind you ? I plan to use my 900 ( hi gain dual reverb) with a 4x12 cab this weekend, Steel and Telecaster. The bottom end is astonishing in the A channel. |
I have a JMP 2204 50 watt master volume head. The JMP 2204 was introduced in 1975 and production ended in 1981. It was replaced by the JCM800 2204, which is the same amp but with a different style of chassis and head box.
Mine is one of the last JMPs made before the JCM800 was introduced.
I bought it second hand, and it came with 6550 power tubes. The amp is midrange heavy like a typical Marshall, but the 6550s give it better bass response than EL34s. It sounds great for pedal steel, clean or overdriven.
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Bill Bassett
From:
Papamoa New Zealand
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 7:27 am Mustang Question
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So, I need a small amp to play a few tunes each night in a show. I need something for the Tele so I don't have to switch things around you know. I was reading about the Mustang I and II. Price is right but what I'd do with it is plug it into the sound system and just use the little guy as an on stage monitor. Does anyone know if they have a line out besides the headphone and USB? Does the headphone out cancel the speaker? I suppose I need to find one in a music store to try it out.
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Steve Hotra
From:
Camas, Washington
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Posted 16 Jan 2011 8:57 pm Re: the big Mustang
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| Tom Wolverton wrote: |
| I heard the 2-12, 150 Watt Mustang amp today at NAMM. It was quite impressive. It could imitate a Twin Reverb quite nicely. Not for everyone. But much nicer sounding than anything Line6 has ever put out, IMO. |
Exactly...
The Mustang 2 is a great modeling amp.
They got the Fender sound down pretty well.
Sold my Line 6 X3L and got the Mustang for at home- rehearsals. The head phone jack and aux in make it easy to rehearse with MP3's.
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