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b0b · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

What position do you usually use to get an augmented chord C6th? There are lots of ways to do it. I just wonder what is the most common.

Taking it a step further, what do you usually do for a 7#5?
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Brian Pelky · From: Portland, OR

I'm certainly no expert on the C6 neck...but one way would be to lower your 6th string a half step (pedal 5 or 6?) and lower your 3rd string half step with RKL. Play strings 6,5 and 3 (1,3,#5). If you have your first string open D instead of G...that would be your 7th tone. Probably an easier way...as I mentioned, I'm no expert.
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John Steele · From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada

If you have an A-Bb raise on your fourth string, make that the #5 and with your pedal 5 your root is on the 10th string (D, open)
Other options are to root it on your A string and use pedal 6.
If you want the #5 on a top string, you can use the position 4 frets above the open chord, with pedal 5. You have no root on the bottom, but on strings 2, 3 and 5 you have the #5, 3rd and 7th respectively.
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

Which position do you use most often for an augmented chord?

Rick Schmidt · From: Carlsbad, CA. USA

What John said is a good one! Here's a few others:

If you have the KL that raises the top C to C#, that augments the 5th of the F7 at the open fret using pedal 6.

I also use pedal 5 and the KL that lowers the As to Ab. As you already know, you can substitute the inversions every 2 whole steps. A real jazzy but dissonant augmented can be had by just the A to Ab lever also.

Before I had those two KLs, I used pedal 6 and the 3rd string lower C to B KL on strings 6,5,4, and 3.

Also pedals 6 & 7 on strings 6,5,and 4.

b0b · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

Wow, do you guys really use 3 or 4 different ways to get an augmented? Not criticizing, I just didn't get the answer. Which one do you use most often? That's my question.

On E9th I almost always use A+B+F, for example.
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CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

the most common Aug chord i use is w: P6 adding the 3rd string half tone raise for the Aug tone
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Jan Jonsson · From: Gothenburg, Sweden

P6 + 3rd string half-note raise (5 frets down from root) is the one I use the most, closely followed by P5 + 4th string half-note raise (2 frets down from root).

Two versions that I use less frequently are P5 + 4th string half-note lower (4 frets up from root), and P8 + 6th string half-note raise (3 frets up from root).

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Ian Kerr · From: Queensland, Australia

What do I usually do for a Dom7+5 ? Instead of playing the augmented chords outlined above ,I first use pedal 5 and the knee lever A's to Bb.This puts the guitar into the whole tone scale mode right across the fret.So open fret is C whole tone scale.So is fret 2 , fret 4, fret 6 and so on.So eg. C7+5 resolving to F, use any of these frets and resolve to fret 5.You might only want to use fret 4 to resolve to fret 5 instead of moving through the other frets. Either play arpeggio through the scale or grab a handful of chords.Note: a.This scale can also be the D, E, F# ,G# ,A# whole tone scale.
Note: b. This scale as well as containing the #5 also contains the #4 ,NOT necessarily at every fret or in the chords you play at each fret.
Another example: G7#5 going home to C. For G, go to fret 7.For G7, use the K.L. [for A's to Bb.]Now use Pedal 5 to get the whole tone scale for G7.Again move in steps of 2 frets.eg 7, 5, 3, 1, to 0 for C.
Again choose only as many of these notes/chords/frets as you need to make a nice sounding lick/run.Once you know the pattern you can start anywhere. eg. you might start at fret 3 , then 1 then C open .

Herb Steiner · From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX

b0b
In no particular order of frequency, though all positions depend on where I'm coming from and where I'm going to:

1. Pedal 5 w/A-Bb lever
2. Pedal 6 and 7, strings 4-5-6
3. Pedal 6 w/C-B lever (usually for a #11 chord w/string 9 as root, usually a raised 4#11 chord going down 1 fret to a 4 dominant)
4. Pedal 6 w/C-Db lever
5. no pedals w/ A-Ab lever, omit string 5
6. Pedal 8 w/pedal 6 (aug. on s.2, #11 on s.6)

I also have augmented scale positions for single string phrases.

On E9, I mostly use ABF, but others upon occasion:
1. ABF.
2. If you have a split tuning capability... which I do not... AX (B-A#) can be used. I most often half-pedal A.
3. F#-G lever w/E-D# lever, strings 10, 8, 7, 5, 4, 2, 1
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

I'm closing this and making it a poll instead:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=169583
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