| how many players play the day set up? |
| how many play the emmons set up? |
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79% |
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| how many play the day set up |
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20% |
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Topic: poll do you play the emmons et up or the day set up vote |
Mike Archer
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Church Hill, Tennessee, USA
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 Posted 2 Oct 2009 7:58 am |
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players here that play the day set up?
post why |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 9:13 am |
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This has been done before, and the Emmons setup players outnumber the Day setup players by about 8 or 9 to 1.
I think the Day is more comfortable, and also more ergonomically correct. (The inside edge of our foot rolls up easier than the outside edge does.) Also, the Day puts the most-used A&B pedals closer to the center of the guitar, making you feel less like you're straddling a bull when you're playing.
But what do I know?  |
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Roger Rettig
From:
An Englishman in Naples, FL
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 9:32 am |
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I play the Emmons setup.
Neither setup is better ergonomically, because you roll your ankle both directions no matter which setup you're playing.
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Roger Rettig
From:
An Englishman in Naples, FL
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Mike Archer
From:
Church Hill, Tennessee, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 9:52 am thanks Donny |
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thanks Donny you are correct for sure 100%
ive played the emmons set up for 25 years
I went to bryan Adams weds along with 2 of my close friends and I played his day set up emmons
man what a great set up! ive always known about the
day set up but a few years back I tried it and
at that time I coudnt do it but after 2 knee surgerys and a pitifull back I see the day set up
is going to be great for me!!
Bryan is going to change my emmons in a few weeks
I cant wait
thanks for the post guys it means a lot to me
Mike  |
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Dick Wood
From:
Springtown Texas, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 10:12 am |
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Emmons for me and that ain't no Bull.
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 10:24 am |
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Sho~Bud setup for me .  |
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George Brown
From:
Winston-Salem, NC, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 10:52 am |
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My first Pedal Steel Guitar, a Marlen, had the Day setup, so thats the way I learned to play, and I'm still using it on my present Emmons. I'm comfortable with it, so I guess I'll keep it.
George... |
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Kenneth Farrow
From:
Alaska, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 11:19 am Day or Emmons |
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| Day, for 25 years |
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Billy McCombs
From:
Bakersfield California, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 11:53 am |
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Day for me, I wonder how many of the big guns use the day set up? Anyone got the answer?
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Roger Rettig
From:
An Englishman in Naples, FL
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 2:39 pm |
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Day
Jerry |
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Bob Tuttle
From:
San Angelo, Tx, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 6:20 pm |
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| Day setup since 1967. That's the way I first learned E9th and see no reason to change. Works for me. |
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Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 6:21 pm As different as Emmons and Day |
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I started lusting after pedal steel circa 1970. Got my first Maverick in 1982. Never heard of the Day (although I knew who Jimmy Day was) setup until well after I joined the Forum, 2004-2005-ish. It was too well-kept a secret for too long and too late to go back. I'm afraid the notion--even later stumbled upon--of having both E knee levers on the left leg (i.e., E->Eb on LKR)--is likewise too far back upstream to change old ways (and several psgs) now.
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pdl20
From:
Benton, Ar . USA,
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 7:29 pm Day setup |
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My first Pedal Steel Guitar, a Marlen, had the Day setup,and ive stuck with it,it could have been Emmons if i had started that way,sometimes i wish it had been,much easier to set in on someone else's steel.
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Stan Schober
From:
Cahokia, Illinois, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 7:32 pm |
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
I think the Day is more comfortable, and also more ergonomically correct. (The inside edge of our foot rolls up easier than the outside edge does.) Also, the Day puts the most-used A&B pedals closer to the center of the guitar, making you feel less like you're straddling a bull when you're playing.
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This is exactly why I'm thinking about switching. |
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Tamara James
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 8:38 pm Day set up rocks |
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| Day for 2 years. I started with the other. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Hermosa Beach California, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 8:50 pm |
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What Donny said makes perfect sense; still I tried it and it just didn't "feel" right. My whole setup is bizarre, but the first two pedals are essentially "A & B" pedals - a few guys have reversed them in the B6 tuning I (and some others) use But for me it just didn't click.
I still screw round with it on my Fenders just for fun, since changing it take abut 5 minutes.
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Mike Archer
From:
Church Hill, Tennessee, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 8:53 pm great responce |
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thanks Im enjoying everyones post
and the poll
Mike |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 11:23 pm |
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
This has been done before, and the Emmons setup players outnumber the Day setup players by about 8 or 9 to 1.
I think the Day is more comfortable, and also more ergonomically correct. (The inside edge of our foot rolls up easier than the outside edge does.) Also, the Day puts the most-used A&B pedals closer to the center of the guitar, making you feel less like you're straddling a bull when you're playing.
But what do I know? :aside: |
As to which edge of the foot "rolls up easier": beside the fact that different people's anatomies surely lead to different answers to that question*, which move are you talking about? Moving on and off the A pedal while holding down the B pedal? Pressing the A pedal only while keeping off the B pedal? Those two moves, arguably the most used ankle-turning moves, require "rolling up" opposite sides of the foot. I can't see how considering "which side of the foot rolls up easier" could cut one way or the other concerning Emmons vs. Day, in any "universal" sense.
*Go to a good "sports" shoe store, and they test to find out what tendency your anatomy has: ankle turning in or ankle turning out, and recommend shoes that work properly with your inherent tendency.
I like the A&B pedals being in positions 2&3--I play Emmons, but have a different change on the "zero" (position 1) pedal. But on a couple of SD-10 guitars I have where I only have the three Emmons-set up pedals, I find that placing my heel behind the C pedal facilitates all moves, especially the B pedal+F raises (LKL) move. But that's for MY anatomy. IMO there is no "one setup fits all". |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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| Posted 2 Oct 2009 11:45 pm |
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There is no ergonomic advantage to either set-up.
The normal range of motion of the ankle is:
35 degrees for inversion (raising the inner edge of the foot)
25 degrees for eversion (raising the outer edge of the foot).
So the ankle can turn the sole of the foot slightly farther inward than outward
Day advantage : lifting off of pedal A when both pedals are engaged & depressing pedal B by itself.
Emmons advantage: lifting off of pedal B when both pedals are engaged & pressing pedal A by itself.
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a] the advantages cancel each other out
b] pedal pushing is the least challenging part of steel guitar. If you learn to play in tune and block well, by comparison, the differences between the Day and Emmons set-ups are insignificant. |
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
New Braunfels, Tx. 78130
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| Posted 3 Oct 2009 5:35 am |
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| Jeff Newman used the Day set up,,,,but I think he and Emmons could both sit in at each others guitar,,, |
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Larry Baker
From:
Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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| Posted 3 Oct 2009 2:30 pm |
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I go for the Emmons set up on a MULLEN guitar. Hard to beat it. Larry B.
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Alan Harrison
From:
Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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| Posted 3 Oct 2009 5:06 pm Day all the way. |
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I have used the Day setup for fourty years. See no reason to change now.....Day/Mullen, great setup.
Hey Mr. Archer, bout time we had another get together. alan
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