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Gar Robertson


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California, USA
Post Posted 2 Jul 2009 6:13 pm     Reply with quote

In this video, Shot refers to the guitar in the foreground as "the monster" with dual strings on one neck and single on the other. What does he mean by that? Dual strings like a 12 string guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIRVlUSrgYc
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Alan Brookes


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Post Posted 2 Jul 2009 7:00 pm     Reply with quote

This particular video has been discussed before on the Forum. I tried to find the original post but couldn't. The quick answer to your question is yes, it's a double-course instrument. Several have been made over the years. I've built four so far. Maybe someone knows where to find the earlier post.
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Gar Robertson


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California, USA
Post Posted 2 Jul 2009 7:17 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks, Alan. I searched first as well but found nothing.
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Donny Hinson


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Balto., Md. U.S.A.
Post Posted 2 Jul 2009 7:41 pm     Reply with quote

Sho~Bud did build some of these...at least 4 or 5, and maybe as many as a dozen? I've mentioned it a few times. Anyhow, here's an earlier thread...

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=149463&highlight=kids+anymore
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Mark Durante


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Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 5:51 am     Reply with quote

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Richard Sinkler


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Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 9:44 am     Reply with quote

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Can't say I have ever heard a record that had one on it. Can anyone stear me in the right direction? I would love to hear one.
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Al Udeen


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maple grove mn usa
Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 11:23 am     Reply with quote

Yes! Hal Rugg used a dual string Sho-Bud for a while in the late 60s or early 70s on some recordings, One I'm quite sure, was an album with Wanda Jackson! I don't know what album it was, but I recall hearing it! au
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Bill Ford


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Graniteville SC Aiken
Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 6:17 pm     Reply with quote

Looks like one of the one's that Sho-Bud made???

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Alan Brookes


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Post Posted 8 Jul 2009 6:30 pm     Reply with quote

The problem with octave courses is that they're okay on acoustic instruments such as guitars, lutes, etc., and they're okay on lap steels, but as soon as you try to put pedals on you have the problem that the two strings have to be pulled by different amounts, which makes for a complicated mechanism and a mountain of tuning problems.

Also, you'll notice that on a 12-string guitar the top two or three courses are unison. This means that if you try to play any lead you end up jumping octaves. The only way to have all courses as octave would be to make the octave string an octave lower rather than higher, and then when you get down to the bass strings they're really low and heavy gauge.


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