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Dave Mudgett


From:
Central Pennsylvania
Post Posted 6 Jan 2009 12:48 pm     Reply with quote

I've used compressors both before and after the volume pedal. For buffering, I think it's best to use it before the volume pedal, but it's not exactly convenient. For the other uses, I think I prefer it after the volume pedal since I generally only want compression to kick in when I'm pushing hard - that's just a personal preference. So if I get enough clarity after the volume pedal, that's where I usually put it.

Beyond that, I definitely put a compressor first in any effects chain. One big issue is that it tends to raise the noise floor of anything in front of it. But I also prefer the sound that way.
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Dennis Mike


From:
Wilson, New York, USA
Post Posted 24 Dec 2015 10:07 am     Gary Morse using Keeley Compressor Reply with quote

Here's a great video of Gary Morse discussing his rig, including his use of the Keeley compressor (0:17). I'd sure like to know what his settings are and/or when he uses it and when he doesn't. Anybody know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLyOJdFZshc

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Ken Metcalf


From:
San Antonio Texas USA
Post Posted 27 Dec 2015 4:30 pm     Reply with quote

I don't use a compressor on my steel but I like the Tone press compressor for Telecaster because it is a parallel compressor.
That means it has 2 channels one uneffected and one compressed with a balance knob between. This gives compression with out changing the tone much.
That being said the best compressed sound that I have gotten on PSG is by using an XR-16 pick-up which I have in my Carter U-12.
Mileage may very.
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Daryl Thisdelle


From:
New Brunswick, Canada
Post Posted 27 Dec 2015 6:31 pm     Compressor Reply with quote

I use a Diamond Compressor on my set up and I really like what it does to the sound. Every thing is a much more of a controlled sound. It is what I like so I use it. Others have different ideas on what sounds good to them, I like the sound a compressor gives you. A little goes a long way. Allot goes even further.. All depends what you are trying to achieve.

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Robert Parent


From:
Savage, MN
Post Posted 28 Dec 2015 4:23 am     Reply with quote

I used a DBX 163x for many years and it worked great.

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Len Amaral


From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
Post Posted 29 Dec 2015 3:43 pm     Reply with quote

Since I read this post I decided to plug in my Boss CS-3 pedal compressor. It sounds very good but the volume pedal is not responsive as someone mentioned. Interesting 😎
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Georg Sørtun


From:
Mandal, VA, Norway & Weeki Wachee, FL, USA
Post Posted 29 Dec 2015 4:20 pm     Reply with quote

Have had a BOSS LMB-3 (made for bass guitar) as permanent first-stage - pre VP - buffer / tone-control / enhancer / sustainer for the last 8 years or so, and am totally happy with it.
It was/is the only stomp-box size "compressor" I could find on the market that sounds (in A/B tests) as if it is totally transparent when set for "light" to "moderate" action, and that doesn't destroy the attack-sound or instrument-tone even when set for "hard" action.

The LMB-3 makes for an excellent "1Mohm in / 100ohm out" buffer - when that is all I need, and as I gave it a leg-mount it provides me with the only sensitivity and tone control I need when the power-amp's master volume is set about right for the venue.
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Karen Sarkisian


From:
Boston, MA, USA
Post Posted 29 Dec 2015 4:32 pm     Re: Gary Morse using Keeley Compressor Reply with quote

Dennis Mike wrote:
Here's a great video of Gary Morse discussing his rig, including his use of the Keeley compressor (0:17). I'd sure like to know what his settings are and/or when he uses it and when he doesn't. Anybody know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLyOJdFZshc

Dennis


Gary mentioned in an old post that he uses a 2 knob Keeley after the volume pedal. inside settings stock, sustain at 10 oclock, Level at 9 oclock for Brooks and Dunn record.

I have a Wampler ego compressor that I sometimes use. I like that I can blend in the compressed signal, and adjust the attack. I think it sweetens the tone a bit and evens things out, but currently I am trying to ween myself off compressors.
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Tommy Shown


From:
Denham Springs, La.
Post Posted 6 Jan 2016 9:41 pm     Reply with quote

I have compression on my Pro Fex. I don't use it because it tends to thin out tone. I like a fat, rich, mellow, warm tone. And although the compressor can clean things up, at the same time it can thin the tone out too, I use reverb, delay. and chorus. sometimes I use reverb and delay together. Sometimes I use them separately. Just depends on what I want to put in the song I am playing, at that time.
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Chris Walke


From:
St Charles, IL
Post Posted 7 Jan 2016 10:32 am     Re: Compressor Reply with quote

Daryl Thisdelle wrote:
I use a Diamond Compressor on my set up and I really like what it does to the sound. Every thing is a much more of a controlled sound. It is what I like so I use it. Others have different ideas on what sounds good to them, I like the sound a compressor gives you. A little goes a long way. Allot goes even further.. All depends what you are trying to achieve.

Daryl


I use a Mooer Yellow Comp, which is a Diamond clone. After using a Boss compressor for years & years (for lead guitar), it was amazing to hear a comp pedal that did not squish my tone & attack.

I don't know what compression ratio it is set to, but I do love that blend knob. Keeps things from getting overly compressed.
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Stephen Williams


From:
from Wales now in Berkeley,Ca, USA
Post Posted 17 Jan 2016 4:16 pm     Reply with quote

Loved compressors ever since I had the grey Ross. Now there are a million and one choices and it's very difficult to hear the differences on You tube videos.

There is the philosopher King by pigtronix which sounds intrigueing. it has a full ADSR adjustable envelope. so I guess you won't lose the attack. Re Blend knob.....You could split signal at psg and have dry sound and blend with compressed sound.

Wouldn't it be great to try out pedals/Fx on line? I mean send a file and have someone feed it into the box you are interested in. Alter knobs in real time or record it. The trick would be to have the dry sound at exactly the same volume as the effected sound. I imagine if it cost $5 to check out a box that you would never ever see in your local store it could be useful. Business idea?
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Phillip Broste


From:
California, USA
Post Posted 17 Jan 2016 9:45 pm     Reply with quote

I use the pigtronix philosophers tone gold. You can get them from pro guitar shop. They have a germanium chip so they don't sound quite as brittle as the standard model.

It goes second in line after a Sarno Freeloader and I almost always have it on with the sustain knob at about 30% and the blend knob at about 70%. There is also a tone knob that boosts at 2k, which I usually have at about 50%. With those settings it is more felt than heard. I'm not looking to hear it in the attack at all. It is a "make it better" box, that adds a bit of hair, sustain, and excitement to the signal.

When I am looking for a dirty sound I'll dial up the grit knob for some saturation, but I find that I also need at least one additional layer of overdrive to get me there. I would miss the grit feature if it wasn't there however and wouldn't mind someday picking up a super rare philosopher's twin, which is the same pedal with a switch for the grit knob.

If I'm going for a more traditional sound with lots of attack and clarity I will disengage the pedal, but most of the stuff I do is atmospheric alt country singer/songwriter stuff and for that stuff the PT is my desert island effect for sure. It really sings going in to a tube amp.

I used to use a two knob Keeley for a time and I found it to be way too intense and audible for my taste, though I never wired it up after the vol pedal and would be interested in how that felt. But over all I think most guitar compressors are pretty much eclipsed by the Philosopher's Tone gold, at least for me.
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Dustin Rhodes


From:
Owasso OK
Post Posted 18 Jan 2016 7:37 am     Reply with quote

I think a lot of steel players would do better with higher end bass compressors than most guitar comps. Guitar oriented OTA based compressors tend to not be great with wide frequency ranges. I think a lot of guys would have a different opinion if they'd play through a nice VCA or FET comp instead of something based on a dynacomp or ross.

Also I'd recommend this site to anyone considering buying a comp or wanting to use one better. Compressors are highly highly variable in their action and that can make or break whether they're useful. Too many guys write them off after having tried basically the least useful version for their purposes.

http://www.ovnilab.com/
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chris ivey


From:
california - r.i.p.
Post Posted 18 Jan 2016 1:41 pm     Reply with quote

the coolest use for one is the way emmons got that sticky squishy sound on some tunes. probably a dynacomp. but then, he was talented.
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John Jeffries


From:
New Brunswick, Canada
Post Posted 6 Jun 2016 5:10 am     Compressor Reply with quote

I have had good luck with the Barber "Tone Press" compressor. It is a good quality parallel compressor which allows you to blend just the right of amount of compressed signal with the non-compressed signal, so you can "fine tune" the result & find just the right sound you are looking for.
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Dave Hopping


From:
Colorado, USA
Post Posted 6 Jun 2016 9:48 am     Reply with quote

I have a rack with an Alesis 3630 that I use at home,but haven't played it onstage in a couple of years.A little compression does smooth things out but the benefits are IMO too subtle for most live situations to justify carrying around another piece of gear
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Jack Stanton


From:
Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Post Posted 6 Jun 2016 10:07 am     Reply with quote

Chris,
You mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKD_o4gbcSE
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James Winger


From:
Washington, USA
Post Posted 4 Sep 2017 8:12 am     Reply with quote

Stephen Williams wrote:

Wouldn't it be great to try out pedals/Fx on line? I mean send a file and have someone feed it into the box you are interested in. Alter knobs in real time or record it. The trick would be to have the dry sound at exactly the same volume as the effected sound. I imagine if it cost $5 to check out a box that you would never ever see in your local store it could be useful. Business idea?


Harmony Central used to have that type of service (though it was mainly for studio rack equipment)
in automated fashion - upload a file, and it would spit out the associated audio.

it was neat, I think maybe somewhat less useful for SOME instrument effects for a couple of reasons
-if it's something like a fuzzface or buffer, something just behind passive pickups, the pickup can actually be part of the circuit voicing
- done as a file, the player doesn't "play into" (adjust playing to fit the output)an effect.
I suppose the same thing goes for adjustment of overall signal chain too, but you can at least to to anticipate.

I still think it's useful and was really good for certain effects that aren't "core tone" like delays and reverbs where you want to hear the quality of the processing layered onto a relatively unchanged source signal
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James Winger


From:
Washington, USA
Post Posted 4 Sep 2017 8:18 am     Reply with quote

anybody try to TC Electronic "hypergrvity" compressor

now it's digital (I don't have a problem with that inherently, but it's more than a buffer with a non-linear gain structure for sure - so those using it as a little bit of a buffer might be hunting squirrel with an elephant gun)

specwise (and only specwise...can't comment beyond that myself), it's kind of neat b/c it has features like the "new york" style upward/parallel compression (ie dry mix) and multiband (3 band) compression is avaialable and fully programmable.

Basically you program the whole thing from your computer - load it onto the compressor and then use it as a stompbox with just the few knobs.

If the practice is as nifty as the concept remains to be heard I suppose

eh, just a thought - So many effects are tuned to 6 string electric guitar (or bass) that dealing with other instruments is always an interesting puzzle.
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Dustin Kleingartner


From:
Saint Paul MN, USA
Post Posted 8 Sep 2017 12:58 pm     Reply with quote

I haven't tried the TC Electronic Compressor, but the concept is intriguing, and I'm interested in hearing if anyone tries it. Looking at the picture, I notice that it has a "blend" knob, which others have said is a nice option on a compressor, and it seems that not many compressors have that.

I recently bought a Keeley 4-knob compressor. I like the sounds I can get with it, and I think it's a good compressor, but lately I've been leaving it at home. I'm back to a bare-bones setup (pedal steel to volume pedal to amp w/ reverb).

For awhile I was using a reverb stomp box and a compressor stomp box, and that can be annoying because the compressor needs to be before the volume pedal, and the verb needs to be after the volume pedal. These minor annoyances seem to add up when you have to cart your gear around to four different places each week. So I've been going without, and not missing it.
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