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Topic: A tune with both a maple/lacquer and a dieboard/mica steel |
Mike Perlowin
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Posted 15 Dec 2008 9:23 am |
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I'm posting this as an extension of the "Formica covered steels...." thread, which has drifted way off topic.
This tune is from from my West Side Story CD. This is the song "The Jets are gonna Have their way tonight." It is the scene from the film where the 2 gangs are each singing about how they are going to destroy the other.
In order to represent the 2 different gangs, I recorded their parts with 2 different steels, which of course are made from the different materials. The two steels are also panned toward the edges of the stereo field.
There are also some other sounds, including the use of a match-bro, and the out of phase position of the George L pickup. These represent other characters as they join in the tune. These come in later in the song. The duet between the jets and sharks, as played on the 2 different steels, is in the first verse, following the introduction. (The intro uses distortion, but the steel parts used to represent the gangs are without any effects.)
See if you can tell which is the maple/lacquer and which is the dieboard/mica. I'll get back here in a day or two and tell you which one is on the left and which is on the right.
http://www.perlowinmusic.com/Track14.mp3
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Last edited by Mike Perlowin on 15 Dec 2008 11:35 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ron !
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Posted 15 Dec 2008 10:31 am
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Great stuff Mike.....way to go.
My guess?.........dieboard on the right.
Ron |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Robert Thomas
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Mehama, Oregon, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2008 1:16 pm
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My guess is dieboard on the left.
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 15 Dec 2008 6:47 pm
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Maple/lacquer on the right ...  |
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Matthew Prouty
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Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 11:54 pm
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Dieboard on the Right.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 3:47 am
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| Matthew Prouty wrote: |
Dieboard on the Right.
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Correct. The Maple/lacquer is on the left, the dieboard/mica is on the right.
Other sounds include the maple guitar with the George L 5 position pickup set to the out of phase position, and the use of a Goodrich Match-Bro with the pickup set to the humbucking position.
I Like having different steels with different sounds. If I had to choose between the maple and the mica, I'd pick the maple, But I would not swap the mica for a second maple one.
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steve takacs
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beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 4:20 am
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| I'm clueless! I can say though that this CD, "West Side Story", by Mike is superb as is his "Firebird Suite" CD steve t |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 22 Dec 2008 8:42 am
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| I Like having different steels with different sounds. If I had to choose between the maple and the mica, I'd pick the maple, But I would not swap the mica for a second maple one. |
I think it's important to mention there are more differences between these two steels than just pickups and body material. Other constructional differences, as well as the way they're assembled, can make noticeable differences in the sound, too.  |
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Mike Perlowin
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Posted 22 Dec 2008 9:23 am
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[quote="Donny Hinson"]
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I think it's important to mention there are more differences between these two steels than just pickups and body material. Other constructional differences, as well as the way they're assembled, can make noticeable differences in the sound, too. |
Donny what you say is true. But in this case, we're talking about two MSA S-12s. made only 2 or 3 years apart, both assembled and signed by Bud Carter.
The only difference in construction that I can see is that the aluminum(?) changer housing on the mica one stops at the pickup well, and the one on the maple guitar extends further. There may be others, but I'm not aware of any. The undercarriages are identical, and I think the changers are too.
The question is what are the other differences between the two besides the obvious, would be a good one to ask Reece.
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