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Topic: Is this an Old Sho-Bud |
Augustus Odell
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Florida, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2008 9:32 am |
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Here is some snap shots of my old steel.Can anybody tell me what it is. They say it is a old Sho-Bud from the 60 to 69.I know that the fret boards are not Sho-Bud.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Oct 2008 11:05 am
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| Definitely not made by Sho~Bud! It looks like a home-made cross between an old Mullen and an old Miller or Marlen. |
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Duncan Hodge
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DeLand, FL USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2008 2:48 pm
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Hello Augustus,
I don't know what kind of steel that you have there, but I looks mighty pretty. How does it sound?
Duncan (also from FL)
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Andy Hinton
From:
Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Oct 2008 5:35 pm Old Shobud?
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It looks somewat like a Stringfellow; built in the 60s in Shreveport by Steelers -T. J. Seamon & Smilly Forrest. I have apair of their endplates & some pedals now. Smilly has been gone many years but T.J. is still around. If I can show him your pics. he would know for sure. They were good friends with Zane Beck & I think the changer was a modefied Z B.
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 22 Oct 2008 3:28 pm
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Its got a lot of ZB similarities.
Sho-bud never built one like that, as far as i know!
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Andy Hinton
From:
Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Oct 2008 3:54 pm Old Shobud
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| Larry; you are absolutly correct. I've seen & worked on every model that Shot & the boys built, I think. Definitely not Shobud, unless it is a one of a kind experiment that accidently got away. They did do some of that, but usually didn't let any leave the shop. Andy H. |
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Benton Allen
From:
Muscle Shoals, Alabama, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2008 5:36 pm
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Looks like Pull/Release changers.
That leaves out ZB, Sho-Bud.
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2008 7:56 pm
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| I don't think Sho-Bud ever made a keyhead like that. |
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Ron !
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Posted 22 Oct 2008 8:51 pm
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Miller parts...pedals are Miller for sure.Keyheads look like Millers too.
ron |
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Steve Waltz
From:
USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2008 9:11 am
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A few Miller keyheads. This one has screws through the top with open gear tuners
This one is a two piece. Screws are exposed and tuners were open gear.
This one has screws exposed on the keyhead and the tuners are open gear.
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2008 11:49 am I got it in Detroit
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| I would like to thank you all for your help. I got the steel guitar from a lady in Detroit Michigan in 1985. It had a plate on it saying Custom made for Carl Myatt .It has the old Sho-Bud pedals.I would like to thank you for any info on what make it is. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 25 Oct 2008 9:35 pm
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| Does it say custom-made by whom ? |
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 27 Oct 2008 11:48 am
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| No it dosn't have any name on the steel guitar anywhere.I know the steel is old .but built real well.I think the undercarage was redone . It has four knee levers.and I think when it was made it did not have knee levers. If you have anybody that might know Please E-Mail me at www.floyd752@yahoo.com. Thanks Gus,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 28 Oct 2008 2:36 pm
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| Can anybody tell me about the red pickups. I don't see them on any steel guitars. |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 28 Oct 2008 4:59 pm
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| Augustus Odell wrote: |
| Can anybody tell me about the red pickups. I don't see them on any steel guitars. |
You can have any color with a spray can. Is the color original plastic or added ? |
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2008 10:33 am
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| The pickups are {Original plastic } they have not ben painted.The reason I think the undercarrage was added later is the switch on the end of the guitar has ben moved.The frets were added later also. I do not know what the {W} stands for on the Fret do you .I would like to here what you think . |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2008 10:52 am
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Well, the 1st fret markings could be either an M, or a W. Miller, or Wheeler? Back in the day, builders used many different colors of plastic when making pickups. My '59 Perm has white MOPly lookin' plastic. Here's an old Shobud pic.
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2008 11:51 am
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| Mr.John Billings I see that you do a lot of posting.I see on your post[ Pedal steel ],on Topic[Sho-Bud]Posted Jan 14,2008 Two snap shots, one is the permanent and the other is a fingertip.I think my guitar is made just like the fingertip if mine didn't have that wide bar there,what do you think . |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2008 1:19 pm
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AO,
The guitars do have a similar appearance as far the way the bodies look. Similar shape, same style of inlay strips, etc.. But back then, many guitars looked like Shobuds, because Shobud was the leader. And it was either Ricky Davis or John Coop who told me that Shot would even sell parts to other builders. Your guitar, although it looks like a Shobud, is not a Shobud. But it's a very cool old guitar, and I'll bet it sounds great! Here's a pic of the business end of my Fingertip.
As you can see, there are a lot of differences. If I found a guitar like yours for a good price, and if I had the cash? I wouldn't hesitate! Yours has had a bunch of modifications underneath, but if they work well, what a neat guitar to gig with! More of a player's axe than a collector's item because of the mods.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2008 1:25 pm
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AO,
Also notice how close the changers are to each other on both the Fingertip, and the Permanent. There's much less space between the necks. Shobuds were narrower across the top than most other guitars. |
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2008 12:36 pm
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| Mr John Billings I think you are wright.What make do you think the body is.and around what year do you think it was made. Thank you for your info..gus |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Augustus Odell
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2008 2:43 pm
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| John Billings Thank you for the post . I think who ever made that steel guitar made mine . they look so much alike . Do you think so. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2008 3:12 pm
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| Yes , Augustus, I do think so. But, I just "think" so. I'm not positive. I think your old guitar is quite cool! How does it play, and sound? |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 11 Nov 2008 7:36 am
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| Augustus Odell wrote: |
| John Billings Thank you for the post . I think who ever made that steel guitar made mine . they look so much alike . Do you think so. |
Not necessarily. I have a half-completed Sho-Bud Fingertip copy, made by a completely different luthier, which looks just like yours.
By the way, look at the machine head. All Sho-Bud machine heads had a pointy protrusion which doesn't exist on your instrument. |
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