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Jack Musgrave


From:
Rogersville, Missouri, USA
Post Posted 29 Sep 2008 7:19 pm     Reply with quote

I am just curious to see how many of these were made. I would like to see pics of other round front Pro 111 guitars to compare to this one. I am trying to determine if they are rare, or if there are a lot of them out there and maybe I just have not come across them. This guitar has the aluminum fingers with pins. like the Emmons changers


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Chris Lucker


From:
Los Angeles, California USA
Post Posted 30 Sep 2008 11:54 am     Reply with quote

What is the model number stamped underneath?
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Skip Edwards


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LA,CA
Post Posted 30 Sep 2008 1:26 pm     Reply with quote

They're pretty rare. Sho-Bud introduced the ProIII at right about the same time they switched to the square-front bodies.
As usual, they probably just kept using round-front bodies until they ran out of them.
I think yours is the only round-front ProIII that I've seen.
Any more out there?
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Jack Musgrave


From:
Rogersville, Missouri, USA
Post Posted 30 Sep 2008 3:14 pm     Reply with quote

Chris, luckily the model number are on both the case and the guitar as well as the stamped number on the cabinet and end plate

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Chris Lucker


From:
Los Angeles, California USA
Post Posted 30 Sep 2008 3:22 pm     Reply with quote

Wow

A true 6164, no doubt about it.
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Jack Musgrave


From:
Rogersville, Missouri, USA
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 2:40 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
I think yours is the only round-front ProIII that I've seen.
Any more out there?

evidently not, Skip. surprisingly even all the big time Sho-Bud experts have not chimed in on this one. someone once suggested that this might be a non production guitar. the numbers on the guitar indicate otherwise. I believe this was a production guitar. Is it possible that this was the very first Pro 111 made?
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Jeff Agnew


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Dallas, TX
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 4:12 am     Reply with quote

Forumite Jay Jessup bought the twin to this guitar in '75 or '76. I suppose it could have been this guitar, although I'm not positive his had the coil tap switches. Maybe so. Everything else is identical -- color, body, wide pedals, headstock. In fact, his was the first Pro III I had ever seen. However, I saw a few others like it in later years so I know there was more than one built.

You might send Jay an e-mail and see if he recognizes the serial number.
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Chris LeDrew


From:
Newfoundland, Canada
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 10:50 am     Reply with quote

What a cool guitar. I notice the E9 changer has separate pulls for the 4th and 5th string raises, even though it's a single raise and lower. Was this a common thing in the round front D10 Pro series?

I'd love to hear how it sounds.
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Skip Edwards


From:
LA,CA
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 11:15 am     Reply with quote

Hey Chris... cool gtr, isn't it.
It's got the old style 1up/1down changer, like a Professional, except for the 4th & 5th strings, for the double raise...and those two strings have 2up changer fingers.
A perfect example of Sho-Bud incorporating new and old parts in what is most likely a transitional gtr.
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James Collett


From:
Southern CA
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 3:58 pm     Reply with quote

Is that a barrel-type changer with nylon tuners?
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Skip Edwards


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LA,CA
Post Posted 3 Oct 2008 4:29 pm     Reply with quote

Yeah, it's basically the same changer that was used on the rack and barrel, and barrels w/2 hole puller system...with the exception of the 4th & 5th raise fingers.
However, the barrels were not at the changer...they were on the other end of things, at the rack or string puller.
This particular gtr doesn't have barrels.
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Bobby Boggs


From:
Pendleton SC
Post Posted 5 Oct 2008 10:32 pm     Reply with quote

Interesting guitar fer sure. Did all the Pro III's have Custom added to the name? I'm assuming this was one of the 1st pro III's?? I know they built the Pro II's then the Pro II Customs.......bb
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Jack Musgrave


From:
Rogersville, Missouri, USA
Post Posted 6 Oct 2008 2:47 am     Reply with quote

Bobby, I noticed that the beautiful Pro 111 that Herby Wallace just sold did not have the word custom and it was one of the later ones built. I can assure you that my guitar came from the factory with the decals that are on it now. The decals are under the lacquer and the old finish has many weather cracks in it.
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James Morehead


From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA
Post Posted 7 Oct 2008 9:52 am     Reply with quote

What a unique, beautiful guitar you have, Jack. Cool
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