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Brian Kurlychek


From:
Maine, USA
Post Posted 26 Aug 2008 7:24 pm     Reply with quote

I notice in most o the utube vids he is playing on what is normally the C6 neck. Especially in all the videos from austin city limits. Does he have the necks reversed? Is he playing those songs in e9 or C6?

Thanks.
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Kevin Hatton


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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post Posted 26 Aug 2008 7:32 pm     Reply with quote

His necks were reversed.
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Ken Mizell


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Lakeland, Florida, USA
Post Posted 26 Aug 2008 7:33 pm     Reply with quote

Moon's version of E9th (no chromatic strings) is on the back neck. He has some sort of dobro like tuning on the top or front neck.
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Austin Tripp


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Westminster SC, USA
Post Posted 26 Aug 2008 7:59 pm     Reply with quote

Here is Ralph Mooneys "other" tuning - He calls is a E9th with 5b

1. G#
2. E
3. B
4. G#
5. F#
6. E
7. D
8. C#
9. Bb
10. E
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Lonnie Zsigray


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Saint Louis,Mich., USA
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 6:47 am     Reply with quote

Was this the same tuning on the Fenders also?
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Brian Kurlychek


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Maine, USA
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 7:38 am     Reply with quote

That is interesting. Thanks.
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Ken Mizell


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Lakeland, Florida, USA
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 9:09 am     Reply with quote

Even more interesting, is what his pedals do. I just tried to find a chart for you, but there's not one for Moon on the list here on the forum. If you do a search for the Mooney setup, I'm sure it's around, since I've seen it. I think his set up uses 5 pedals and 1 knee, not positive. Most pedals pull 1 string. I'm sure someone will come on the thread with the details. The Fender setup was probably about the same, with only 8 strings. Moon routinely plays pedals with both feet. It's hard to play his style with one foot. Moon is unique, and I love his style.
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Richard Ingley


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Bowie, Texas, USA
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

I own the white GFI that was Moon's first GFI guitar. Here is the tuning that I inherited on the bottom neck.
Mooney’s Set-Up

Bottom Neck
String Key Pedal String Key
1 G#
2 E 4 4 A
3 B 5 3 C#
4 G# 6 1 A
5 F# 7 2 F#
6 E 8 1 G
7 D
8 C#
9 A
10 E Knee String Key
LKL 2 D#
LKR 6 D#
RKR 2 F
RKL 8 B

This is not coming out like I'm putting it in. Where it shows string 2, the following 4 4 A is supposed to be under the line above for pedal, string and key. Hope this helps.
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Fred Jack


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Bastrop, Texas 78602
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 3:16 pm     Moon Reply with quote

Now I'm REALLY confused!
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Ken Mizell


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Lakeland, Florida, USA
Post Posted 27 Aug 2008 4:09 pm     Reply with quote

Earlier, Moon's setup was a lot simpler than what he had on Richard's white GFI(and no doubt more recent GFI's). I have his set up from Winnie Winston's book, published in 1975 (picture with Moon playing a Sho-Bud at the time). In that chart, the open tuning is the same as Richard listed, except string 9 is Bb.

The changes are listed as:

1st string, G#, raised to A by pedal 3 and lowered to G on pedal 5.

2nd string, E, raised to F# on pedal 4 and raised to F on a knee lever.

3rd string, B, raised to C# on pedal 2.

4th string, G#, raised to A on pedal 1.

6th string, E, lowered to Eb on the knee lever.

That's all, at that time.

Mooney's 1st - 5th pedals would be the same as the 4th to 8th pedals on a D-10 with 8 pedals. I don't know what he did with the pedals in the 1-3 positions.

Richard - Sounds like you have a prize possession there. I saw Moon's pic with that one at the GFI web site. Does it still play well?

I've been a fanatic over Moon's playing forever, since I first noticed his work on the very early Buck Owens records, like Under Your Spell Again, Foolin' Around, Loose Talk, House Down the Block, and many, many more. His work with Wynn Stewart and the Hag is great too. Actually, it's great no matter who he was playing with at the time. I've watched all thos YouTube video's with Waylon at least a dozen times each, and counting.
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