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Bengt Erlandsen


From:
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Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 2:48 am     Reply with quote

This is a repost of an E9 chord chart I made to show the relationship between the chords and different pedal/lever combinations. Which position is most practical to use if the chord progression goes IIm V I, I VIm IIm V or just I IV V. A quick look at the chart will reveal several options where to do a IV I V if that is what is beeing played. No need to move the bar all over the neck if the chords are right there.
This is just a simple chart, there are lots of other chords to be found but these chords are mostly on strings 10 8 6 5 4 3 which is the strings that makes most sense when playing the instrument for the first time.

Tab:

    I = C
  IIm = Dm
 IIIm = Em
   IV = F
    V = G
  VIm = Am
 
I7, IV7 & V7 = C7, F7 & G7
 
 
 
   LKL LKR  A  B  C   RK
F#
D#                    C#
G#             A
E   F  Eb         F#
B           C#    C#
G#             A
F#
E   F  Eb
D                     C# 
B           C#
 
 
 
Chart shows chords found in key of C.
 
Pedal/levers used               N e c k     w i t h     f r e t  n u m b e r s
 
LKL LKR A B C RK     0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9   10   11   12   13
--- LKR - - - -- *    |   I|    |    |    |    |  IV|    |   V|    |    |    |    |   I|
--- --- - - - --      |  IV|    |   V|    |    |    |    |   I|    |    |    |    |  IV|
LKL --- A - - --      |    |    |    |  IV|    |   V|    |    |    |    |   I|    |    |
--- --- A B - --      |    |    |   I|    |    |    |    |  IV|    |   V|    |    |    |
--- --- - B C -- **   |    |    | VIm|    |    |    |    | IIm|    |IIIm|    |    |    |
--- LKR - - - --      | VIm|    |    |    |    | IIm|    |IIIm|    |    |    |    | VIm|
--- --- A - - --      | IIm|    |IIIm|    |    |    |    | VIm|    |    |    |    | IIm|
--- LKR - B - -- *    |  I7|    |    |    |    | IV7|    |  V7|    |    |    |    |  I7|
LKL --- - - - --      |    |    |    | IV7|    |  V7|    |    |    |    |  I7|    |    |
 
note * combinations might include string 7 or 1
note ** combination applies to string    - - - 7 6 5 4 3 - 1
All other combintions applies to string 10 - 8 - 6 5 4 3 - -


Bengt Erlandsen


Last edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 28 Jan 2008 12:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Steve Norman


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 8:09 am     Reply with quote

nice,,printing..

thank you for that!
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David L. Donald


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 9:15 am     Reply with quote

Interesting take on the whole thing.
Nice job.
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Larry Bell


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 9:16 am     Reply with quote

I'd be interested to see what happens when that 011 gets raised from G# to B. Shocked

Must be a typo Bengt

Nice chart -- organized a lot of info
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Ricky Newman


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Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 9:43 am     Reply with quote

It breaks and comes screaming across the back of your left hand at about a million mph.

How can a cut that's just over 1/10 of a inch wide bleed (or hurt) so damn much?


(thanks for the chart)
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Bengt Erlandsen


From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 12:48 pm     Reply with quote

There was a typo in the original post. 3rd and 6th string is raised G#-A. Fixed it.
There is also lots of other chords to be found but keeping the chart simple makes it easier to see the relationship between the chords and where they are located. Easy to see that I and VIm, IV and IIm, V and IIIm are located at the same fret (with only a few exeptions) It should be easy to figure out why.
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Jonathan Shacklock


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London, UK
Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 2:56 pm     Re: Simple E9 chord chart Reply with quote

Thanks Bengt. Smile
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post Posted 28 Jan 2008 7:57 pm     Reply with quote

Hi,
you left out the I7sus4 fret 8
pedal B and string 9

or D# to D half step lower
pedal B and RKR 1/2

I have used it in a country rock tune,
so I think it applies.

Pedal A and LKL also gives you the VI major on fret 8
Used a lot me thinks too. 1 6 2 5 turnarounds for instance
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Bengt Erlandsen


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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 1:10 am     Reply with quote

That is correct, I left out a whole lot of chords to keep the chart simple. Pedal A and LKL always give a major Chord so as you said, VI(major) is at 8th fret. Likewise it is easy to see from the chart that at 3rd fret w A+B you can go I to III(major) to IV by using
3rd fret A+B
3rd fret A+LKL
4th fret A+LKL

Feel free to expand the chart with more lines and add in other chords that you know to show relative positions in regards to the chords already shown.

The I7sus4 fret 8 w pedal B & string will of course be a II7sus4 at 10 fret, III7sus4 at 12th fret and so on. If the chord interval structure is not available on open strings you wont find it at any other frets either. Example a Root 3rd 5th chord will (more/less) only be possible to play max 8 different places since you have 10 strings. For practical purposes you might only use 5 or 6 of those.
Tab:

Most common
Root 3rd 5th (interval structure)available on
strings 10 - 8 7 - - - - - - w E's-Eb
strings  - 9 - 7 6 - - - - - w Bpedal
strings  - - 8 - 6 5 - - - - w open strings
strings  - - - - 6 5 4 - - - w A+B pedal
strings  - - - - - 5 4 3 - - w A+F
strings  - - - - - 5 - - 2 1 w open strings
These are the only Root 3rd 5th voicings available!

Playing the grips above on open strings you get

B major  ( Bmajor at 12th fret )
D major  ( Bmajor at  9th fret )
E major  ( Bmajor at  7th fret )
A major  ( Bmajor at  2nd fret )
C#major  ( Bmajor at  10th fret)
B major  ( Bmajor at 12th fret )


As an example, If one wanted a minor6th voicing in the form Root b3 5 6 one will only find 4 possible right hand fingerings for that particular chord.
The root note will be on 1 of 4 strings. Either 10th, 9th, 7th or 6th string. The way I see it is that those are the only 4 minor6th voicings (in the form (Root b3rd 5th 6th) and the will be relative positioned to my I chord root note. Instead of having 12 keys times 24 frets giving me a mindboggling number of possibilities to try to find that particular chord.
Chord relationship and their relative positions stays true and applies to any key. Any voicing found on open strings will be available at every fret. If the voicing is not found on open strings you don't need to try to find it at any other frets because it wont be found.
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RC Antolina


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Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 2:21 am     Reply with quote

Reece Anderson has a course called the "Missing Link" that pretty much covers and simplifies that whole process. I recommend it highly.
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 3:09 am     Reply with quote

Bengt, I just figured at least at fret 8
ALL the common chords should be there.

I have levers not here, because I like passing chords.
But I don't expect THOSE pulls to be relevant.
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Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 9:57 am     Reply with quote

I almost always lower my second string to D whenever I press my A+B pedals. If your A+B chord is I or V, lowering the 2nd string to D will give you a scale note for your melody.
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Bengt Erlandsen


From:
Brekstad, NORWAY
Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 11:33 am     Reply with quote

bob, lowering the 2nd string a half tone when playing the I or V chord is a good habit just in case musical inspiration should come to the fingers. I do the same not all the time but almost because it helps me remind me where everything else is located.
Of course if one don't lower the 2nd string the A+Bchord would 99,9% be a IV chord which means no pedals in the same position strings is the Ichord and so on.

David, you are right there is levers missing. I actually has 7 kneelevers on my guitar to have individual control over different notes within a chord, but the 3levers shown is more or less standard and it keeps the chart easy and not overcrowded with different chords.
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Post Posted 29 Jan 2008 1:52 pm     Ony 1 question Reply with quote

Jonathan -

How do I get a blow-up of your ....agh, steel
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