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Topic: C# minor 9th |
Rick Collins
From:
Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 10:24 am |
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Sometimes things can really get confusing.
Example:
Christopher Columbus goes to Queen Isabella of Spain and says, "I can find a shorter route to India by sailing west; because the earth is round like my head".
Queen Isabella says, "no, the earth is flat like your head; but here, take this money and get out of my sight".
Chris on his route discovers America; or did he? How does one discover a country that is already inhabited. What gave ol' Chris the right to call the newly discovered inhabitants by the same name of a race of people 8,000 miles short of of his intended destination?
1. Queen Isabella was wrong __ the earth is not flat.
2. Christopher Columbus was wrong __the earth is not round.
3. The shape of the earth is an oblate spheroid.
1. Every year, the second Monday in October, I celebrate Columbus Day.
2. Many times I call the native Americans, "Indians".
3. Should I keep playing Paradise Isle on C#m9th?
I think I will. 
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 10:34 am
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The standard C6 tuning (CEGACE) requires much less bar movement for melodies.
Moving the bar around is the fun part. |
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Gerald Ross
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Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 10:46 am
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Maybe so Mike. But I've never been able to really 'get' the C#m tuning. The top three strings do form a nice 6th chord. But what about a big fat major chord?
I look forward to your book. Maybe it will open my eyes to the possibilities of this tuning.
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
[This message was edited by Gerald Ross on 22 March 2005 at 10:47 AM.] |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 1:30 pm
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Gerald, I really don't have the time for the book project as of now. It seems it would be a real labor of love, and I definitely don't think I can afford another of those.
Big Fat Major chord? E x G# E B E , that's pretty fat.
E Maj. and C#m are great for old-time playing and improvising. I can get a surprising wide range of chords and harmonies out of them when I need to, especially E major. |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 22 Mar 2005 3:20 pm
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C#m9 = MUST have these notes
-C# (tonic or root)
-E (Minor third)
-G# (Fifth)
-B (Seventh
-D# (Ninth)
and NO others...or if it does, it's name must include the extensions.
otherwise it's NOT C#m9 or a variant..
Applying the rules you're advocating would make our conversations contain words that have no place there. Then how would we communicate..The same analogy applies to music.. after all it is a method of communication, and not a platform for misinformation ....
I don't care who gave it this name, or who advocates this name...It's totally wrong by all the rules of music..
Basil..[This message was edited by basilh on 22 March 2005 at 03:23 PM.] |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 1:01 pm
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Rick ..Surely the thread title "C# minor 9th"
and the very first post quote:
I play Paradise Isle in this tuning.
What other tunes go well with this tuning?
Suggest that this is the name of a tuning ?
I did say "those who advocate the use of this name"
I NEVER would dare to criticize JB..I have to much respect for the man and his achievements re the Steel Guitar, whoever his critic are, don't count me as one of them..
Laudable as you defense of him is.. it was totally unnecessary..
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 2:24 pm
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Basil ... good to hear you are a member of the "Audubon Society".
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Aiello's House of Gauss
My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 4:57 pm
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| I like birds. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 5:00 pm
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| Especially minor birds. |
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 5:20 pm
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ooo... low blow.
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Rick Collins
From:
Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2005 5:43 pm
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E-13th sounds good to me. But, there seem to be a number of ways to tune to E-13th. There should be a way of denoting by name, to which E-13th one is refering.
The tuning beginning E-C#-B-G# & etc. is most familiar to me; but does not E-6th also begin this way?
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 24 Mar 2005 2:35 am
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Well Rick.. I think that because the F# is not necessary for the designation E13th, there should be a qualifier if it's included..like E13 added 9th.. Also as the high G# is not normally used by Hawaiian players I think that Standard E13th should apply to the one using E as the top note and either Western E13th or the Helms E13th to refer to the one using the high G#.. Just a start..
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