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Topic: Stone? |
Jeff Au Hoy
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Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:27 am |
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One of Rick Aiello's latest postings in the vibrato analysis thread (an image of Quasimodo and a gargoyle) got me thinking...
Lots of different wood and metal configurations have been tried, but has anyone made a steel from stone? Perhaps marble or granite?
How about molded concrete?
I imagine these materials would be quite brittle. But maybe not? Bakelite is also brittle afterall.
Stonemaster? Magnastone? Master of Touch and... |
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Jeff Strouse
From:
Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:33 am
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marble?? hmmm....
I've been thinking about remodeling the downstairs bathroom, and don't want the nice marble sink top to go to waste.... |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 10:40 am
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My friend Ken Parker built one of his Fly proto-types out of concrete (body only). It was mostly just for fun and to let a few neighborhood kids decorate it. I played it, but I don't recall it sounding particularly special. Just say no to stone guitars, although a marble console might be cool-looking. 
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George Keoki Lake
From:
Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 11:09 am
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| My favorite bar is made from Zirconium. Great sound and so quiet. |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 11:12 am
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| Where did you get a Zirconium bar? I'm droolin', over here... |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 2:35 pm
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L.T. Zinn has one of those Zirconium bars. I tried it. It's the ultimate bar! Smooth clean sounding, high ends, low ends, feels good in your hand, looks extremely cool, slides smoothly on the strings, quiet. The perfect blend of a Red Rajah/Phoenix and a chrome bar.
IMHO if they made them again everyone would throw away their current bars and use these.
Maybe the government is restricting these - trying to protect fair competition in the steel bar market.
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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2005 2:58 pm
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Being a "bar-a-holic" ... I followed the discussions over there in the PSG section about these rascals.
Seems that at the time ... they had access to the machinery, materials, etc ... to make a limited run possible.
Now it seems the start-up cost would be very high ... since they no longer have access to the equipment ...
Something like that ...
[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 05 March 2005 at 07:12 PM.] |
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Gerald Ross
From:
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
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Chuck Fisher
From:
Santa Cruz, California, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Mar 2005 10:45 am
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6 posts using the word bar and stone - and not one joke from Howard. What is the world coming to????????
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Todd Weger
From:
Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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Posted 8 Mar 2005 5:52 am
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the tone of something as dense as stone sound too hi-fi? Of all the guitars that I've ever heard that were made of very dense, heavy woods, the sound was extremely sterile sounding, with pretty much no resonance. Conversely, something like vintage, aged and very lightweight swamp ash sounds incredible, with the light, resonant wood providing very complex and juicy harmonic overtones.
I don't own a bakelite Ricky, but even though that material is dense, it's also somewhat porous too, isn't it (albeit, on an extremely micro scale)?
Likewise, wouldn't a guitar made out of, say, stainless steel not sound nearly as good as cast aluminum (like Rick's guitars, for example), for the same reasons?
It seems I recall reading somewhere that Gibson put the hard maple cap on top of the mostly mahogany Les Paul to bring out and give the highs more definition that an all mahogany guitar doesn't have. But, an LP made completely out of that maple would not sound very good at all, and sound too brittle and sterile.
I basically have NO idea of what I'm talking about, so please forgive my ramblings. It's just that this subject is quite intriguing to me!
TJW
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Todd James Weger/RD/RTD
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, A6, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, B11/A6); Chandler RH-4 Koa semi-hollow lapsteel (open G); Regal resonator (open D or G)
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c c johnson
From:
killeen,tx usa * R.I.P.
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Posted 8 Mar 2005 6:32 am
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| Those bars are not of any special material. I have one and my educated friends at the university tell me they are made from the jaw bone of an ass. |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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