INSTRUCTION STRINGS ACCESSORIES MUSIC LINKS
 Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com for Steel Guitars, Strings, Instruction, Music and Accessories 
Forum Index
where steel players meet online
The Steel Guitar Forum

Post new topic Ernie Ball volume pedal mod
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Ernie Ball volume pedal mod
Tab Tabscott


From:
Somewhere between Vashon and Vancouver
Post Posted 27 Oct 2017 5:49 am     Reply with quote

I've got a ton of volume pedals, most don't really work any more. I had one fail just before a show up north and went into a music store and all they had was an Ernie Ball Jr.

I didn't want to but I had to take it to get out of a jam. It played great but I really didn't like the fact that the jacks were mounted to the front of the pedal. Great for guitarists, lousy for pedal steel players. I worked around it with 90* cords.

Well here comes Gary Gray, forum member from Joplin Mo. He's a great steel player and machinist, and he moved the jacks on his Ernie Ball to the side, and did a nice job of it too...
So I sent him the pedal, and he expertly moved the jacks to the right side, and covered up the hole in the front with a matching piece of aluminum angle.
It works and looks great. You can't tell Ernie himself didn't make it that way. It was a modest charge, too.

The pedal is $79 on Amazon, so for about $140 bucks I got exactly what I wanted in a volume pedal. Clean sound, great functionality, and a fantastic long taper. Look him up here-he'll do you one. Can't say enough great things about his work. Tab
_________________
Tab Tabscott

Play nice.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Larry Dering


From:
Missouri, USA
Post Posted 27 Oct 2017 6:43 pm     Reply with quote

Tab, great info. Can you post a picture of the pedal with the mods?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Michael Maddex


From:
Northern New Mexico, USA
Post Posted 27 Oct 2017 9:16 pm     Reply with quote

Good Story with Happy Ending...and another vote for a photo of the Final Project!

Thanks & have a Good One! Cool
_________________
"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Tim Russell


From:
Pennsylvania, USA
Post Posted 28 Oct 2017 3:07 am     Reply with quote

Does he also change the pot to the 500K one, suitable for steel, since the EB pedal comes with a 250K...?
_________________
Sierra Crown D-10
View user's profile Send private message
Jimmy Gibson


From:
Cornwall, England
Post Posted 30 Oct 2017 3:10 pm     Reply with quote

It’s very easy to do this mod,I did it to the two Ernie Ball pedals I use,I did one with two outputs the same as the Goodrich,also what I did was mill out the bottom plate to give better access to the pot and hook up .Made it a lot easier to replace new pots.



This is a great way to make it easier to change pots.

These are the answer to front Jack in and jack out pedals.


Last edited by Jimmy Gibson on 7 Nov 2017 2:26 am; edited 2 times in total
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Scott Duckworth


From:
Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies
Post Posted 31 Oct 2017 3:20 am     Reply with quote

I moved the jacks on mine, and covered the font plate with aluminum AC duct tape.

As for the pot, putting a 500K in it is hard to do. It uses smaller shaft pots, so total disassembly is needed, and some drilling to make a 500K pot work in it.

If anyone has found a better way, please post it! I haven't done mine, as I play lap steel now, and the 250K pot is fine.
_________________
(1) E6 Rogue lap steel, (1) A6 Rogue lap steel, Li'l Izzy, Zoom MS-50G Effects Pedal into a Berhinger mixer and Harbinger V2112 speaker(s).

Amateur Radio Operator NA4IT (Extra)
http://www.qsl.net/na4it

I may, in fact, be nuts. However, I am screwed onto the right bolt... Jesus!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
David Nugent


From:
Gum Spring, Va.
Post Posted 1 Nov 2017 11:09 am     Reply with quote

If you are able to locate one of the early model (made in U.S.A.) Ernie Ball pedals, they were manufactured with side mounted jacks and came equipped with a 500K pot. Picked mine up on Craigslist for $50.00.
View user's profile Send private message
John Russell


From:
Austin, Texas
Post Posted 1 Nov 2017 8:09 pm     Reply with quote

I use a Boss volume pedal (Model FV500H). I love the pedal so much I bought a second one. They also have the jacks on the front but due to the shape of the pedal, right-angle plugs don't work so well. I solved the problem by raising my pedal board up about 1/2" using hose gaskets. The gaskets are placed above the rubber stoppers on the front legs so the pedal board is 1/2" higher, enabling the straight plugs to fit under the pedal bar. The the cords come in from the front of the guitar. I don't know if the EB Jr. pedal works this way. I keep one in the car as a spare but the Boss pedals have been totally reliable so I've not needed to use the EB.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 2 Nov 2017 8:36 am     Reply with quote

Why don't you guys just buy a Goodrich and be done with it? Rolling Eyes
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
John Russell


From:
Austin, Texas
Post Posted 2 Nov 2017 9:44 am     Reply with quote

I have two Ernie Ball pedals. I have the Tom Bradshaw pot that I haven't yet installed so it may make the older Ernie pedal a keeper. Changing pots in these pedals is a chore as you probably know. The Boss pedal so far is flawless--no string. It has a type of potentiometer with a different mechanism. Very reliable. I keep the smaller EB pedal in the car in case the Boss fails. It's fine and has the Tom Bradshaw pot.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Hal Braun


From:
Eustis, Florida, USA
Post Posted 2 Nov 2017 4:36 pm     Reply with quote

Erv Niehaus wrote:
Why don't you guys just buy a Goodrich and be done with it? Rolling Eyes


2 reasons

Don’t need another power supply...
Don’t need to spend that much money,

My EB sounds great, and works fine with 90 degree plugs
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Dan Robinson


From:
Colorado, USA
Post Posted 2 Nov 2017 10:05 pm     Reply with quote

John Russell wrote:
I keep the smaller EB pedal in the car.
Right angle plugs are an easy work around. I aleady had the EB/JR for guitar. But after changing the string I swore I would never repeat that misadventure. So it stays in thee car as an emergency soare.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
b0b


From:
Northern California
Post Posted 2 Nov 2017 10:13 pm     Reply with quote

I had an Ernie Ball pedal, but the 250k pot really stole some of the high end of my tone. I stopped using it for that reason.
_________________
-b0b- (SGF Admin) a.k.a. Bobby Lee ♪ CopedentsRice & BeanWine Country SwingStella
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
John Russell


From:
Austin, Texas
Post Posted 3 Nov 2017 6:02 am     Reply with quote

The Tom Bradshaw pot is 500K, made by Dunlop. I have one in my VP Jr. Ernie Ball pedal. Works fine.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bill A. Moore


From:
Silver City, New Mexico, USA
Post Posted 3 Nov 2017 6:55 am     Reply with quote

I have an old EB pedal with jacks on the side, and open front. When the pot got too noisy, it was a simple matter to install a 470K pot, are the newer ones mounted differently?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 3 Nov 2017 7:21 am     Reply with quote

Hal,
You don't need a power supply with a Goodrich pedal, where did you get that idea? Rolling Eyes
Erv
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
John Russell


From:
Austin, Texas
Post Posted 3 Nov 2017 7:35 am     Reply with quote

Correction: Bill Moore is right, the Bradshaw pot is 470K.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Hal Braun


From:
Eustis, Florida, USA
Post Posted 5 Nov 2017 1:55 pm     Reply with quote

Erv Niehaus wrote:
Hal,
You don't need a power supply with a Goodrich pedal, where did you get that idea? Rolling Eyes
Erv


Erv.. my bad, was thinking of the Hilton I had... still expensive though 😁
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 6 Nov 2017 8:38 am     Reply with quote

Hal,
I have to amend this a bit, there is a Goodrich pedal that does require a wall wart, it was an optical pedal but I don't think they sold too many of them. Very Happy
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Johnie Helms


From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post Posted 20 Nov 2017 5:04 pm     Reply with quote

EB Makes a fine affordable passive vp, (built tuff) I always move the input panel jacks "back" to the side of the pedal ( like older models ) To bad it's not an option.. Anyway if the 250k don't work jus replace with a 470-500k. I personally like the full travel the design offers.. EB jr, My fav..


JH
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Steel Guitar Music
Instrumental steel guitar CDs for your permanent collection
www.SteelGuitarMusic.com

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support This Forum


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron
HTTP