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Topic: BMI steel refurbish job complete |
Johnie King
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 5:27 am |
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Documenting 40 year old BMI facelift. This steel played an sounded great just cleaning it up an giving it a new look.
Last edited by Johnie King on 11 Feb 2018 12:21 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Mike Scaggs
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 5:32 am
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I always like watching this stuff and learning more...
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Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 5:45 am
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BMI stands the test of time after 40 years of use. Thought I would give it good cleaning an new look. This has too be the most underrated steel built today. The BMI was ahead of its time in the past an ahead still today. Many steel manufacturers use the aluminum frame design that Zane Beck designed 50 years ago. I will bet y'all can name a few. BMI is to this day manufacturing this great steel. An they gladly service what they sell an can furnish any part u need. Cowboy Eddy Long plays BMI check him out on YouTube.
Last edited by Johnie King on 2 Nov 2017 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 6:03 am
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That is an interesting view of the BMI body design.
Here is the new Sierra body design:
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 7:58 am
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 Anapeg frame foundation |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 1 Nov 2017 4:30 pm
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Last edited by Johnie King on 1 Nov 2017 5:11 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 1 Nov 2017 4:31 pm
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 will have wood neck Curley mable neck |
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Mike Scaggs
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 1 Nov 2017 6:25 pm
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Love watching this
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I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you
Zum double Hybrid 8x9, 64 Twin (JBLs), p2pAmps Bad-Dawg, p2pAmps Tremendous Reverb, Visit my website www.p2pamps.com |
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Tim Russell
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 2:06 am
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Awesome work - post more pics!
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Sierra Crown D-10 |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 6:09 am
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thanks
Last edited by Johnie King on 22 Feb 2021 7:02 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 10:14 am
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 10:21 am
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| Got a little more done , built maple fret board with wenge accent binding an Paducah wood fret markers plus walnut dots. Got to run trim in middle of neck there's a slot that holes it |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 1:58 pm
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 1:59 pm
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 9:41 am
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 Getting close too roding got to call Dan or Don at BMI an get some goodies. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2017 9:43 am
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| You could use regular fret board 12 string BMI fret board over the one I made I just can’t cover up beautiful wood. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2018 10:10 am
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2018 2:52 pm
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Great job Johnny. I love the tone of BMI's guitars and they are built like a tank. I never liked or understood the logic behind those big flat cross bars. Did you replace those with round cross bars?
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:03 pm Psg
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| The big cross bars(shafts) is what kept me from playing BMI's over the years. I prefer the smaller cross shafts that are square. Hey Henry, hope your doing good buddy. |
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2018 5:11 pm
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I noticed the same thing, i.e. cross shafts. I think I read somewhere, recently, that BMI was considering the move to a more standard cross shaft and bell crank.
I've always hesitated to consider a BMI because of the flat shafts. I'm sure I've missed out on a great sounding steel. They are fine looking guitars! |
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2018 10:21 pm
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| Tom Campbell wrote: |
I noticed the same thing, i.e. cross shafts. I think I read somewhere, recently, that BMI was considering the move to a more standard cross shaft and bell crank.
I've always hesitated to consider a BMI because of the flat shafts. I'm sure I've missed out on a great sounding steel. They are fine looking guitars! |
That would be a great move for BMI I think. They are great sounding guitars and I like everything else about them, espicially the way changer is made and would sure consider one. The flat cross bars themselves do the job and make changing set ups fairley easy. The part I don't like is the fact that the fulcrum part of bell crank is mounted forward on the cross shaft which when a pedal is pushed, they have to go up before they start to pull which makes pedals mushy. I had a little single 10 I played for years and could never get the mushy feeling out until one day, I turned the bells cranks around and had to make two pull rods and and shortened two. Just did it on A and B pedals. That put the hole in bell crank right above the fulcrum point and played like a dream then. Years ago, I showed my idea to Zane and he said he would check out my idea. Zane was a fine man and I only got to hear him play once but what an honor.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Daniel Haymore
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 6 Feb 2018 6:35 am
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| Do the flat cross shafts have any effect on the tone? It always appeared that they were one of the main similarities between BMI's and the old ZB guitars. I've always wondered if there was a reason for that. I have always wanted to try a BMI and see what, if any similarity in tone they have with the old ZB guitars. I know they are probably apples and oranges, but I love the sound of the old ZBs and those cross shafts live on. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 6 Feb 2018 9:13 am
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Those flat cross bars work great. I've never noticed any of the issues Henry mentioned; but, my BMI is just a few years old. I've got both of my guitars (Williams and BMI) set up so the pedals and knee-levers feel pretty much the same.
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Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2018 10:59 am
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| Hi Daniel, The BMI is totally different from the Z B. The only downside too the flat bars would be a little extra weight. The changer on BMI is much simpler than some of the steels being built today An work very well. I been associated with B M I For nearly 40 years. Every time I do a setup on a BMI I marvel at the genius of Zane Beck. Set up corectly they can play as good as any pedal steel being built today. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2018 11:13 am
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| On setting up B M I all flat crossbars have a set screw that you use too take up slack on pedals an knee leavers so u can have very tight tollarance on pedals an knee leavers. |
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