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Greg Gefell


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Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 3:26 am     Reply with quote

When installing brand new uncut unbent virgin rods, is it best to work from ABC pedals towards the changer or the other way around? Seems like you'd want to get the longest rods/pulls done before moving on to shorter ones but I'd like to hear from those that have done this from scratch.
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Bill Moore


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Manchester, Michigan
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 4:03 am     Reply with quote

I think it's easiest to start with the 1st string, which will be farthest away from you when the the guitar is upside down. Then the 2nd string and so on. On strings that have raises and lowers, do the lowers first, so those rods won't be in the way when you do the raises. If you start with the ABC pedals, those rods will be in your way as you work on the other rods.
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Greg Gefell


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Farmington, NY
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 4:19 am     Reply with quote

That makes sense. I was thinking of it as a working left to right issue whereas your suggestion makes it more of a back to front.
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Bill Ferguson


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Norcross, GA USA
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 5:25 am     Reply with quote

Now, I do the raised first, so that the lowering rods will not be in the way and I work shortest rod to longest rod.

Seems like doing the lowering rods first.

I also start with string 1.
IMHO
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Dan Kelly


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Boston, USA
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 5:40 am     Reply with quote

When doing a "ground-up" re-rodding, starting with the shortest changes (closest to the changer, itself)seems to make sense to me. That way, one would have the room needed to attach the rods to the bell cranks without having to work around the rods for the longer pulls.
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Charley Bond


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Inola, OK, USA
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 11:11 am     Rodding...or RE-Rodding Reply with quote

If this is new to you, you could go to Google & view some pictures of guitars already working. Study them from key end to the changer & see where the pitfalls are....

If you have a guitar & it hasn't been changed, take some pics & study them.

Good Luck...
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John McClung


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Olympia WA, USA
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 3:00 pm     Reply with quote

Here's a shrewd tip from my pal Mickey Adams: he likes to re-rod starting from string 1 down to string 10 (string 12 in my case). He recommend putting in all bell cranks nicely lined up with the changer fingers first, then add rods. New concept for me, but does make a lot of sense and makes it easier I would think.
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 3:55 pm     Reply with quote

John McClung wrote:
Here's a shrewd tip from my pal Mickey Adams: he likes to re-rod starting from string 1 down to string 10 (string 12 in my case). He recommend putting in all bell cranks nicely lined up with the changer fingers first, then add rods. New concept for me, but does make a lot of sense and makes it easier I would think.


Yep. That's how I learned to do it when I started working at Sierra.
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post Posted 5 Oct 2017 4:04 pm     Reply with quote

John McClung wrote:
Here's a shrewd tip from my pal Mickey Adams: he likes to re-rod starting from string 1 down to string 10 (string 12 in my case). He recommend putting in all bell cranks nicely lined up with the changer fingers first, then add rods. New concept for me, but does make a lot of sense and makes it easier I would think.


Yep. That's how I learned to do it when I started working at Sierra.
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Jim Bob Sedgwick


From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
Post Posted 6 Oct 2017 10:48 am     Reply with quote

when setting up the E-9 Neck, I find the C pedal is the easiest as they interfere with the rods for pedal A and
Pedal B. Assuming you are setting up an Emmons set up. I don't know if the Day set up also holds true. YMMV. Smile
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Greg Gefell


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Farmington, NY
Post Posted 6 Oct 2017 10:55 am     Reply with quote

Great ideas here. I have the bell cranks laid out where they need to go which gives me an idea of where the congested areas will be. Working from string 1 towards 10 definitely makes sense.
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