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Topic: Quieter bar than the Broz-O-Phonic?? |
Jim Fogarty
From:
Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 5:12 pm |
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I do most of my lap steel playing with a Broz-O-Phonic bar I've had for years and like it a lot. I've noticed, though, it's quite a bit noisier on the strings than the BJS bars I use on PSG.
Short of just buying another, smaller BJS, what are my options for a quieter lap bar, in the same basic size.....or even a wee heavier (not much!)?
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 5:19 pm
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Talk to Basil Henriques - he makes the Ezee-Slide bars out of a synthetic material with a metal core.
I've been using one for quite some time now with pedal steel and lap steel - it's just about dead quite and *very* fast on the strings. Also far more durable that you would imagine for a seemingly-"plastic" bar. I've dropped mine on concrete and asphalt several times and there's not a mark on it.
www.waikiki-islanders.com/html/ezzee~slide%20bar.html
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1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
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Jim Fogarty
From:
Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 5:37 pm
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Wow!!! $88.50 for that Ezee-Slide! That damned thing should play itself.
That may be too rich for my blood. But, thanks. |
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Jim Fogarty
From:
Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 5:55 pm
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| FWIW......is the Broz-O-Phonic considered a relatively quiet bar? Wonder if I'd be throwing money away for a minuscule improvement. |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Ian McWee
From:
Worcestershire, UK
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 2:34 am
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Thanks for the bar recommendation David ~ much appreciated! 
On a side-note, our new all solid crystal glass 'stevens-style'. tone-bars will become available from our website around mid-November - all of our usual solid opaque glass colors will be offered.
Ian.
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 4:02 am
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| I am a big fan of the Latch Lake (formerly Broz-O-Phonic) tone bars. I don't find them overly noisy, but I use nickel and/or bronze strings. If you're using stainless strings, they may be noisy. And they will definitely not be as smooth, as stainless on stainless creates more friction than stainless on nickel or bronze. |
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Rick Barnhart
From:
Arizona, USA
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 7:29 am
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Just break down and buy a BJS, that's what I use.  |
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 9:27 am
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
| Just break down and buy a BJS, that's what I use. |
Does BJS make a bar the same size as Latch Lake's? |
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Former Member
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 12:40 pm
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Woah!
Ian what the hell do you have there!?!
That Stevens bar looks sweet!
I'll take 2 in purple ASAP.
(I still have the "Swiveler") |
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David Venzke
From:
SE Michigan, USA
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 6:08 am
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Jack,
I don't know anything about the Latch Lake's bar but I do have a shorter, skinnier BJS that I use on my lap steels and dobros. |
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 7:12 am
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
Jack,
I don't know anything about the Latch Lake's bar but I do have a shorter, skinnier BJS that I use on my lap steels and dobros. |
Latch Lake (aka Broz-O-Phonic):
Stainless steel
3/4" x 3"
5.6 ounces
About twenty bucks
Latch Lake is right down the road from you Erv, in Eagan, MN. |
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Steven Pearce
From:
Port Orchard Washington, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 9:10 am
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All bars and bar material give us different sound qualities. And good stuff isn't cheap.
I picked one of these up recently. They are 'full sound' bars, and they're heavy. Not much string noise, sustain is great. $30.00 BUT IS THERE REALLY a perfect bar out there?
I say no, all have different tones...and all have a place in the music we make.
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Latch Lake Bar® w/ Dynamic Diffusion Technology®
The Latch Lake Bar in steel with Dynamic Diffusion Technology enables unheard of sustain and tone for acoustic or electric lap steel.
Thanks,
Steve
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Stephen Abruzzo
From:
Philly, PA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 5:42 pm
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Another vote here for Michael Hillman's powder-coated bars. Pick your color, diameter and length.....just that simple. And the price is right too!
Outstanding bar with some warmth to it's sound. Love mine.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2017 7:33 am
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Jack,
I believe the dimensions you gave are the same or very similar to my BJS, however, my bar is a chrome bar, smoother on the strings. |
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David Matzenik
From:
Cairns, on the Coral Sea
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Posted 2 Oct 2017 12:15 pm
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My advise is don't get neurotic about string hiss. No one is going to hear it. Listen to all the great old recordings. They are all done with steel bars.
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 2 Oct 2017 4:01 pm
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| Basil H. makes the finest bars ever made for steel guitar ... if you want the best ... pony up to the "bar" and splurge... get one while the "gettin' is good" ... you won't be sorry 🤠|
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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C. E. Jackson
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HowardR
From:
N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 3 Oct 2017 6:08 am
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I love my Egg-O-Phonic.....$1.79 dozen.....
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Pookie Anselmi
From:
Galliano, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2017 6:24 am
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| Howard, that's an eggcellent choice. |
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Rick Barnhart
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2017 10:14 am
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Bakelite in its natural environment
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Mark Roeder
From:
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 3 Oct 2017 10:50 am
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I do like the bar on the corner of Hamilton and Humboldt, Pitches, old school supper club. A little bar noise but the cocktails are smooth
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