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b0b
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Posted 28 Sep 2017 2:03 pm |
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Visited with Ross Shafer this morning and snapped this pic of new Sierra changer parts. Now there's something you don't see every day! 
Beautiful design and machine work!
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Jack Goodson
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Posted 28 Sep 2017 2:27 pm Changer?
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| b0b, is that the changer housing or the tuner housing?....thanks jack |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Jack Goodson
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new brockton,alabama (deceased)
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 6:02 am Tuner?
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| I was just wondering if that part could be adapted to the older guitars?....thanks jack |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 29 Sep 2017 9:17 am
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It's not something I'd attempt. The neck on the older Sierras is taller and wider. You'd have to do a lot of hacking and improvising.
Besides, I don't think these parts are for sale separate from the guitars.
By the way, this guitar strings up and tunes up faster than any I've owned. I used to dread changing strings. No more.
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 1:47 pm
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bob, How do you restring your keyless? Do you thake them all off, cleal, and restring, or one at the time. If all off, how do you get to "lockdown" without being over sharp?I have just aquired a keyless, and dreading my first string change.
Thanks Bill
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2017 10:35 pm
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I usually take them all off, clean and restring in order starting from string 1. I don't know what you mean by "lockdown" and "over sharp".
As you string up an instrument, the tension on the deck increases and strings that you've already tuned up to pitch go flat. I generally retune the installed strings several times during the process, to pull everything back up to where it belongs. When I'm finished, I play it for 10 or 15 minutes before the final tuning and pedal touch-up.
I allow an hour for the whole process, but it doesn't really take that long. I like to have a little fun time on the new strings once they're all nicely tuned. (It's all about me.)
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 4:12 am
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Lockdown...secure, and cut string
Oversharp....string is sharp with no adjustment for flatting.
Maybe a dumb question but don't you put the tuning screws to full flat position to install new strings?
How do you attain pitch before you secure/lock the string.
Is there a written procedure for this? Thanks, Bill
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Ross Shafer
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Petaluma, California
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 8:43 am
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Wow a Lamar 7 string, that's cool. It takes a little getting used to, but in general you don't have to pull the bigger strings very tight before securing them. the opposite for the small strings....like that pesky 3rd string on an 10 string e9 setup.
Due to the amount of tuner travel on the Lamar (at least the one Lamar built me) it was important to give those skinny strings a good hard yank before securing the strings in order to get them up to pitch without using too much of the tuner's travel.
The new Sierra tuner has enough travel that one can bring that damn 3rd string up to pitch with pretty light tension before securing the string...the tuner is way lower than the rest done this way, but it works fine. Using more pre-tension allows the small strings to come up to tension without using as much tuner travel.
I hope this helps Bill |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 8:51 am
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I see what you mean now.
Your keyless looks similar to mine. I've never pulled a string tight enough before lockdown for it to be sharp. I suppose it could happen in theory on the low strings, if you pulled really hard. If you're worried about it, check the pitch of the string before you break off the end.
Tip: raise the fingers until the old strings are totally flat before you remove them. That will set them all up in position for installing the new strings.
PS - who made your 7-string keyless? Looks really nice!
Edit: Ross posted the answer" Lamar! 
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Bill Ford
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 9:43 am
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Thats not mine, thats the first pic of a Lamar I could find, Mine is an S12 Lamar.
Thanks
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Charley Bond
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Inola, OK, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 10:37 am Sierra Changers
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The ones I counted, added up to 17. Wow, that's $170,000 worth of guitars,
Good Luck To them.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 11:47 am Re: Sierra Changers
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| Charley Bond wrote: |
The ones I counted, added up to 17. Wow, that's $170,000 worth of guitars,
Good Luck To them. |
Right, but it's just one of over 350 parts that go into each guitar, many of them specifically designed by Ross for Sierra and machined with the same exacting precision. 
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 1 Oct 2017 12:06 pm
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Thanks Ross, I missed your post earlier..Bill
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