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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 9:02 am     Reply with quote

I've been experimenting with E9 lap steel lately. There are a lot of pedal steel sounds in this tuning, especially with slants. Here's a quick demo...

--click--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aomQhRQUZOI



UPDATE: Tab added

Here's the tab for the first half of the demo. The second half is basically the same, same chord positions, slightly different picking patterns. Notice the 3-string slant in measure 6 for the Dm chord.


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Mark Eaton


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 9:33 am     Reply with quote

Nice demo Doug, I've been thinking of going this route.

The classic line on lap/non-pedal is "you can get everything you need on C6th" but for most of the music I play I'm thinking I might be able to easier wrap my head around non-pedal E9th. And I would try out the 8 string version.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 10:16 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Mark, this is a good tuning for Country, major chords, 7ths and 9ths... but there is no full minor chord (with straight bar). So a two note slant will have to do in most cases. Same old story... no one tuning does everything. Cool
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Mike Neer


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 10:43 am     Reply with quote

Sweet. I use a different version of E9, but I like what you did with this one. Really suits you.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 10:52 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Mike! This tuning brings out the pedal steel player in me. It's exactly like strings 4 through 9 of pedal steel guitar, E9. I didn't realize that until after I make the recording! No wonder it feels so familiar.
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Scott Duckworth


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 1:42 pm     Reply with quote

Sounds great!

Doug, a couple of questions.

What gauges are you using?

Do you have instructional material on this tuning (grips,bar slants, etc)?
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Lee D Kaiser


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 5:21 pm     Reply with quote

I liked the one-handed removal of picks at the end!
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 12 Sep 2017 6:50 pm     Reply with quote

Scott, I'm using a standard C6 set of stings, 014, 017, 020 (or .022), 026w, 030w, 036w (or 34w). E9 is an easy retune from C6. Tune strings 2, 3, 4 down 1/2 step, and tune string 6 up a whole step.
Tab:

C6    E9

E     E       
C --- B
A --- G#
G --- F#
E     E
C --- D

I don't have any tab or instruction for this tuning. I've only been playing it for a few days.

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I liked the one-handed removal of picks at the end!

Lee, that's the hardest technique to master! Cool
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Scott Duckworth


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 2:12 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Doug!
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Tom Wolverton


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 5:24 am     Reply with quote

Yes. A nice tuning indeed. I've thought about 8-string variations of this and came up with this one to try out:

E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
B

One problem is that all major chords are split grips.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 7:25 am     Reply with quote

Tom, I think that would be E13 tuning, due to the C#. I have that tuning on one of my consoles. It's the same as strings 4 through 10 of E9 pedal steel, except for the C#. That's the note that pedal A would give you on PSG.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 7:34 am     Reply with quote

Tom Wolverton wrote:
Yes. A nice tuning indeed. I've thought about 8-string variations of this and came up with this one to try out:

E
C#
B
G#
F#
E
D
B

One problem is that all major chords are split grips.


I know this as the tuning is the core of my E13#9/F.

Having that spilt makes it easy for additional chords.

Example C to Cdim.

Tons in there. M7, m7, Dom7,Aug, Dim, Sus2, sus4 and loads more. Would be great having more people give it a whirl. Any queries feel free to give me a shout.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 7:27 pm     Re: E9 Lap Steel - Demo - Video Reply with quote

Doug Beaumier wrote:
I've been experimenting with E9 lap steel lately. There are a lot of pedal steel sounds in this tuning, especially with slants. Here's a quick demo...

--click--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aomQhRQUZOI



Really nice Doug. Any notation/tabs? I figured out the first part at the 8th fret is an octave higher and sounds pedally as well.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 13 Sep 2017 7:34 pm     Reply with quote

Scott Duckworth wrote:
Sounds great!

Doug, a couple of questions.

What gauges are you using?

Do you have instructional material on this tuning (grips,bar slants, etc)?


Here is a little taster to get you started



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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 14 Sep 2017 5:40 am     Reply with quote

Thanks for all the positive comments.
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Tom Wolverton


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Post Posted 14 Sep 2017 9:19 am     Reply with quote

Doug, as always, your playing is exceptional.
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 14 Sep 2017 1:08 pm     Reply with quote

Doug Beaumier wrote:
but there is no full minor chord (with straight bar). So a two note slant will have to do in most cases. Cool

Great playing, Doug.

D-F#-B is your full 1st inversion minor triad with that tuning, unless I misunderstand what you mean by "full minor chord".
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 14 Sep 2017 2:20 pm     Reply with quote

...ah, yes, Bm open, root on top. I missed that. I've only been playing the tuning for a couple of days... or should I say daze!
Tab:

Bm

  --------
B ---0---
  --------
F#---0---
  --------
D ---0---


Thanks Fred and Tom for listening!
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 1:07 am     Reply with quote

Doug Beaumier wrote:
...ah, yes, Bm open, root on top. I missed that. I've only been playing the tuning for a couple of days... or should I say daze!
Tab:

Bm

  --------
B ---0---
  --------
F#---0---
  --------
D ---0---


Thanks Fred and Tom for listening!


Alot more in there. Here is the Aeolian minor scale harmonised with basic triads.

Doug would be great to catchup sometime.



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Andy De Paule


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 10:16 am     I'm impressed Reply with quote

I'm impressed Doug,
Very nice indeed.
Maybe I'll change the steel I have in E7th to that.
Love all your videos. Often I put those youtube videos on the computer at let them play all night at low volume while I sleep.... Makes a good night light too! Shocked
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 10:35 am     Reply with quote

Thanks Andy and others! I'll be posting the tablature for this soon. If you play E9 pedal steel you'll definitely notice the similarities in this E9 tuning. The tuning is easy to get to from C6. No need to change any strings. String 6 has to go up a whole tone, but a .034 should be fine with that.
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Andy De Paule


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 10:52 am     Does it have a name? Reply with quote

Hi Doug,
Very nice tune. Does it have a name?
Is it one of yours?
I really like your versions of Sleepy Lagoon and Summertime.
Curious what tuning you use on those also?
Best wishes,
Andy
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Fred Treece


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 12:09 pm     Reply with quote

If I could just learn your volume pedal technique I would be happy. I love the way you maintain a solid pick attack and only swell for long sustained notes.

The tune has some obvious Hawaiian flair. Nice job on the slants.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 4:17 pm     Reply with quote

Andy, this is an original tune I've been playing for a long time on pedal steel guitar... no name. I was trying to work out Curly Chalker's version of Long Black Limousine, and then it morphed into this. So now there is little resemblance to Long Black Limousine!
I played E13 10-string on Sleepy Lagoon, and C6 6-string on Summertime. Thanks for listening!

Fred, regarding volume pedal technique... I set the volume on my Amp louder than I need it to be and I keep the Volume Pedal about halfway down when I play. Pick a chord, and as the chord starts to fade press the VP to about 3/4 down to draw out the sound, and roll the bar slightly for vibrato. Just before you pick again, bring the pedal back to the halfway spot. Pick, press, up, pick, press, up... but you only use the middle part of the pedal's throw. From halfway down to 3/4 of the way down. It's barely noticeable. This volume technique gives the steel a "floating" sound, the volume increases and decreases slightly, but not in an annoying or noticeable way. And the vibrato adds to the overall sound. For fast picking just keep the pedal at one steady volume.

The main problem I see with beginners... they either pump the volume pedal constantly (unnecessarily) making a woo...woo...woo sound. Cool Or they stomp all the way down on the pedal and leave it there, full blast all the time, which defeats the purpose of the volume pedal. When a student does that I turn his amp Way Up so he has to back off the pedal to the halfway spot.

PS I'm also using a Boss Delay here, which further draws out and expands the sound.
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C. E. Jackson


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Post Posted 15 Sep 2017 4:49 pm     Reply with quote

Nice as usual, Doug.

C. E. Smile
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