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Topic: Carter part question |
Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Jul 2017 10:35 am |
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For a Carter guitar.
I want to replace all my dog bones with the threaded barrels. I would need 40 or so. I cant find round 3/16 diameter 5/16 long 4-40 thread BRASS standoffs. I can drill my own. Al brisco is way too expensive. I can find them at Mouser in aluminum and stainless. Would either of these work?
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 15 Jul 2017 3:30 pm
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Richard, not many player have dog bone problems. How and then.
Send a link to the stock you saw that can be drilled. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Jul 2017 6:32 pm
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I've only had 2 break, but have several that aren't far from breaking. Plus, it is far easier to rod the guitar, adjust slack, and balance pulls. I've already done the A, B, and C pedals.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ian Worley
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Sacramento, CA
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Posted 16 Jul 2017 10:51 am
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Stainless will be stronger than brass. Aluminum should be fine too, as the clamp would likely slip before the barrel would break. Also try a google image search for "cable stop" or "cable end" or "barrel end clamp" if you haven't already. There are lots of similar items out there, you might find something ready made in the correct size. These are throttle cable clamps for a Ducati (about 7/32" diam, so a little too big):
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Jul 2017 1:07 pm
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| Ron Hogan wrote: |
Richard, not many player have dog bone problems. How and then.
Send a link to the stock you saw that can be drilled. |
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 16 Jul 2017 2:45 pm
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| Thx Richard. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 16 Jul 2017 5:08 pm
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If you scroll down through this Carters parts list that Al Brisco has on his website, you will find "Barrell Nuts" ... these are the correct size to replace the Dogbones, and you don't have to put that ridiculous loop in the end of the rod !! :-}
http://www.steelguitarscanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2017-Carter-Parts-Catalog-1.pdf
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08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Jul 2017 7:49 pm
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Yes, but they are $10 each. For what I want to do, that would run me $500. I'll be able to do both necks for under $100 for aluminum and $150 for stainless. I want to re-rod each neck as I take the changers apart to clean.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Bruce Derr
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Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2017 9:45 am
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I'd pick SS over aluminum, but I think Carter used brass for a good reason.
"Alloys such as brass and bronze are often chosen for bearings, bushings, and other sliding applications because of their resistance to galling, as well as other forms of mechanical abrasion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 20 Jul 2017 11:46 am
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I ordered some from Mouser and drilled the hole so that the pull rod could slide through. Fits perfectly in the carter bell crank. Will also work with others. 4-40 thread for the allen screw.
Mouser part # 761-1634-440 AL
Last edited by Ron Hogan on 13 Oct 2018 3:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Jul 2017 4:37 pm
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Exactly what I plan to do.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 20 Jul 2017 4:55 pm
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Richard,
Thx for letting me know about Mouser. I had forgot about them.
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Dan Robinson
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2017 9:50 pm
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Thanks, Richard. Fantastic find!
Ron, you've got it figured out. Are those aluminum?
Headless 4-40 set screws would help avoid interference with an adjacent bell-crank.
Pkg of 100 for $10. Fits inside one end of the standoff. May be more diffucult to secure compared to the screw with larger hex-head.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#91375A103
What do you think?
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 21 Jul 2017 5:56 am
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Dan,
Aluminium.
That set screw will work.
Thx
Ro |
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