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Godfrey Arthur

 

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Post  Posted 2 Jul 2017 9:14 am    
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Yes, old tech for old guitars. I would imagine these tuner companies, as with much gear, monitor forums such as these, and in some way what was mentioned herein might inspire them to make a better tuner for specific apps.

I saw a thread on Talk Bass yesterday. They were discussing making better tuners, the equipment, materials they would need, the how and the costs.

White lithium grease is supposed to be "non-hardening."

Ron at Sperzel didn't say which type or brand. But he did say to mix in trumpet valve oil which to a trumpeter has to have specific qualities so no wrong notes are hit if the valve slows down.

How much oil to grease he didn't say.




Found this:


Says its good for gears, chain, sprockets and rollers besides spark plugs. Has a blend of copper, graphite and aluminum in it however that works.



This looks to be non hardening.

The search goes on..
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Jerry Roller


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2018 8:27 pm    
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I have an Emmons SKH with Sperzel keys. Almost impossible to turn some of them. A few I can't tune up to pitch without using a string winder. I called Sperzel Company and no help at all. He just told me they don't make that key any longer. He said try soaking in kerosene. Billy Knowles had already told me he was told the same thing and it did not help. I don't know what to do with this issue. I took some apart, cleaned them up and put white lithium grease in them and they are still just as stiff as before.
Has anyone found a solution?
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Bobby Nelson


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2018 11:50 pm    
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My brand new MSA came with Sperzels, and they are tighter than Dick's hat band. I have to use a winder on them to tune. In know they aren't worn out , so I figured they are made that way. I put locking Sperzels on my strat 15 yrs ago and they are smooth as buttermilk. Maybe it's something to do with pedal steel.
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Godfrey Arthur

 

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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2018 11:59 pm    
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Maybe it's something to do with pedal steel.


It's the grease used back then. It hardens over time. That said, perhaps a tuner that is actually for steel guitar and not an adapted guitar machine needs to be invented.
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Charles Kurck


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2018 10:07 am    
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I have a 1978 BMI with hard to turn Sperzel tuners. I wonder if soaking them in PB B’laster Penetrant would help.
http://blastercorp.com/PB-Blaster-Penetrant-remove-stuck-parts-spray
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 2 Sep 2018 10:10 am    
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Only if you can get the stuff to the inside of the tuners. Applying it to the outside without opening them up will be of little help.
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