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Jim Reynolds


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Post Posted 9 Apr 2017 1:18 am     Reply with quote

Bob, what you read is not true. It is damage to the nerve hairs (simplified) in the inner ear. Once this is removed you have no hearing in that ear, or tinnitus, or head noise. Putting up with tinnitus is a very miserable thing, a masking noise is about the only way, and as I mentioned a hearing aid. The less your loss the easier it is to adapt to hearing aid. It is not perfect, nor your normal hearing. Just remember all hearing aids do not adjust to musical instruments, and the pedal steel is the worst. The only thing that has saved me, is that I was a licensed fitter, dealer in Pa. for over sixteen years VA wanted to fit me with fit all's. After they found I knew as much, if not more then their audiologist, they let me choose my own hearing aid, and what I wanted on them. They work great. Not my God given hearing, but I can get by.
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Ed Pettersen


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Post Posted 7 May 2017 6:44 am     Reply with quote

After about the 10 minute mark he starts digging in to it a bit more in relation to triggers, symptoms, and treatments. Stress, sleep, stimulants, all big factors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGq3MXQlRJs
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 7 May 2017 7:39 am     Reply with quote

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It is damage to the nerve hairs (simplified) in the inner ear.

I have a cochlear implant and can testify that the above statement is true. That being said, there are some amazing breakthroughs on the horizon that address the problem. The doctor who did mine told me that clinical trials are underway and in a few years there may be a whole new therapy regarding catastrophic hearing loss..
http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nbt.3840.html
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Bob Carlucci


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Post Posted 7 May 2017 11:13 am     Reply with quote

Barry Blackwood wrote:
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It is damage to the nerve hairs (simplified) in the inner ear.

I have a cochlear implant and can testify that the above statement is true. That being said, there are some amazing breakthroughs on the horizon that address the problem. The doctor who did mine told me that clinical trials are underway and in a few years there may be a whole new therapy regarding catastrophic hearing loss..
http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nbt.3840.html


many many people of all ages with PERECT hearing .. I mean ZERO hearing loss have Tinnitus.. They do NOT have nerve damage, they have Tinnitus.. As I have stated, I have been examined by several of the top Tinnitus researchers at the Universiy of Buffalo which is at the cutting edge of Tinnitus research, and they are positive that Tinnitus is in the brain NOT in the inner ear.. If it was inner ear damage , people with no hearing issues would not have it, yet many do...

https://www.ata.org/news/news/two-types-tinnitus-brain
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 7 May 2017 11:43 am     Reply with quote

Bob, I did not mean to imply that nerve damage was the cause of tinnitus, but I can tell you I now don't perceive any tinnitus in the ear that was implanted.
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Ed Pettersen


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Post Posted 7 May 2017 1:50 pm     Reply with quote

In that Ted talk he says that people with zero hearing loss can have tinnitus. But he also says it's the inner hairs so...lots to still be known on this I think.
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John Billings


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Post Posted 7 May 2017 2:14 pm     Reply with quote

I will be seeing a tinnitus specialist on the 17th. I have other ear issues like excessive wax, and sometimes water. I will post what she has to tell me.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 8 May 2017 5:15 am     Reply with quote

From If Our Bodies Could Talk by James Hamblin:

"Tinnitus is the leading cause of disability among military veterans, as well as a common cause of suicide. Quantifying the extent of the relationship is difficult, because the tinnitus and its resulting psychological torment--including social isolation and sleep deprivation--and often diagnosed as psychiatric conditions....

"The sounds often seem to be the result of the brain's backfired attempts at filling gaps in auditory input. It is a 'phantom sound' similar to the illusion that fills blind spots in our fields of vision, or the phantom pain and itch felt in amputated limbs. Based on this understanding, Daniel Polley, a tinnitus patient and audio-perception researcher at Harvard's Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary, believes that there may be a way to reprogram the brain to stop perceiving phantom sound... audio pathways can sometimes be reset.

"Polley, who blames his own tinnitus on years of imprudent headphone use, is helping people by using music therapy. With an intensive testing process individualized to each person's hearing loss and tinnitus pitch, he removes specific frequencies from music and prescribes it. Relying on plasticity of neurons to form new connections that essentially ignore the ringing frequency creates a sort of intentional, purposeful blind spot.

"Audiologist Allen Rohe has seen this sound-training therapy work. Once of his suicidal patients, after a year of therapy, came to experience moments of complete silence."
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Dan Robinson


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Colorado, USA
Post Posted 8 May 2017 9:02 pm     Reply with quote

We're not there yet, but some emerging research is promising:

http://www.hearingreview.com/2015/06/researcher-develops-new-method-of-cell-regeneration-in-inner-ear/

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-03-20/new-treatment-could-combat-hearing-loss-regenerating-hair-cells-inner-ear
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post Posted 10 May 2017 5:59 am     Reply with quote

I don't know why; but, ever since I started wearing hearing aids, it seems that the constant ringing in my ears has decreased. Some days I can barely hear it.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 10 May 2017 6:06 am     Reply with quote

I think it's due to the focus we can achieve with appliances. An ear trumpet may have helped in old days.
Perhaps just it's by turning up the outer sound, but focus is done in the brain, which you're training with hearing aids.
I continue to look away from the scillia and apply: (See like you're deaf, feel like you're blind, and)
listen like you're paranoid.
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Ed Pettersen


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Tennessee, USA
Post Posted 10 May 2017 7:04 am     Reply with quote

I just got back from the audiologist getting molds made for ear plugs (highly recommended if you have tinnitus BTW--mine are being made by ACS which allege you can hear all the frequencies and drop DB's from 10 to 30 if you wish). Anyway, she said that technically tinnitus is in the brain but it's the brain's neurons compensating for the damaged psilli in the ear. The annoying frequency pitch is in the brain but it's caused by damaged psilli and only damaged psilli. She also reiterated that stress, lack of sleep and stimulants exacerbate the condition. She added that it appears there may be treatment hope on the horizon as others have posted. Protect your ears!!
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Barry Blackwood


Post Posted 10 May 2017 8:19 am     Reply with quote

I'm having trouble finding definitions for "scillia" and "psilli" anywhere. Are these terms being used as abbreviations for something else? Confused
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 10 May 2017 9:31 am     Reply with quote

I'm sure I have them misspelled.
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Ed Pettersen


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Post Posted 10 May 2017 12:52 pm     Reply with quote

Barry Blackwood wrote:
I'm having trouble finding definitions for "scillia" and "psilli" anywhere. Are these terms being used as abbreviations for something else? Confused


Oh hell, you want me to spell too? Very Happy
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 10 May 2017 1:49 pm     Reply with quote

Yeah, whaddyaexpect, me to Google it? Cilia. Often called hairs.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sensory+hairs+in+the+ear&oq=hairs+in+the+ear&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l5.39715j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


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