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Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 31 Oct 2000 9:14 am     Reply with quote

In C major. This is like playing only white keys on a piano.

Tab:

   C  d-   e-  F  G  a-  Bdim  C
 
3. 0  2    4   5  7  9   11    12
5. 0  2    4   5  7  9   11(E) 12
6. 0  2(F) 4(F)5  7  9(F)11(F) 12
7. 0  2    4   5  7  9   11    12

and

4. 3   5  7   8   10   12  14   15
6. 3   5  7   8   10   12  14(F)15
7. 3(H)5  7   8(H)10(H)12  14   15(H)
8. 3   5  7   8   10   12  14   15


Practicing this sort of thing help me to understand the tuning.
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Bobby Lee


From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
Post Posted 31 Oct 2000 11:01 am     Reply with quote

Thanks a lot, Bob!
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Ricky Davis


From:
Austin, Texas USA
Post Posted 1 Nov 2000 1:29 am     Reply with quote

Beautiful Bob and what a great place to start from.
Those wanting to understand the C6 neck more; should bury this in their head and building from there comes so much easier.
Thanks Bob Hoffnar.
Ricky
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Jeff Lampert


From:
queens, new york city
Post Posted 1 Nov 2000 5:39 am     Reply with quote

Good theory stuff.
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Bob Hoffnar


From:
Austin, Tx
Post Posted 1 Nov 2000 10:32 am     Reply with quote

If you mix both of those grips you can play all the diatonic chords except the Bdim without any pedals.

C grip#1
d- grip#2
e- grip#2
F grip#1
G grip#1
a- grip#2

I'm not the greatest C6 player to put it mildly but practicing this sort of thing makes it so I can visualise the neck a bit better and play what I hear.

Bob


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BJ Bailey


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Jackson Ms,Hinds
Post Posted 1 Nov 2000 11:35 am     Reply with quote

Thanks alot Bob I am trying to learn just why I bought the other neck on my Steel.
I know it cost to much just to have an armrest. You guys do'nt know how much you mean to us that are still in the dark on alot of things.


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CrowBear Schmitt


From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post Posted 1 Nov 2000 1:06 pm     Reply with quote

Thanx Bob, real Neet+ darn Handy.
Keep it up...
Steel learnin'everyday....
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James Harrison


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New Brockton, Alabama, USA
Post Posted 10 Jun 2008 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

Bob Hoffnar, I have been trying for 77 years to become unstupid, but your first entry has me stumped. I mostly play E6 and Dobro G. I want to learn other tunings, but I cannot tell the frets or strings in the post. If it is too hard to explain that is OK. I am still trying to get unstupid.
James
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Steve Norman


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Seattle Washington, USA
Post Posted 10 Jun 2008 9:59 pm     Reply with quote

Idea light just clicked on,Thanks! Idea

James,,Numbers on the left are string grips,,the fret is the column under the Notes,

first one,,cmaj at fret o, strings 3,5,6,7, etc
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John Vaughan


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San Jose, California, USA
Post Posted 13 Jun 2008 4:39 pm     C6 diatonic chords Reply with quote

Are the letters for C6 pedals a continuation of the E9 ABC? i.e., E=pedal 5, F=pedal 6, etc.??

John Vaughan
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Rick Hulett


From:
Hood River, OR
Post Posted 17 Jun 2008 8:37 am     Reply with quote

thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been searching for this
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Al Marcus


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Post Posted 28 May 2009 7:36 am     Reply with quote

Good start. Glad to see all the interest in C6...al.Smile Cool Cool
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Sherman Willden


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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
Post Posted 2 Jul 2009 9:27 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you Bob

Sherman
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Eldon Cangas


From:
Ontario, Canada
Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 12:40 pm     Grips Reply with quote

Could someone please explain what grips 1 and 2 are. There must be a few more perhaps a short list would be beneficial. Thanks. Eldon
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Roger Guyett


From:
San Francisco, Ca.
Post Posted 3 Jul 2009 5:09 pm     Re: Grips Reply with quote

Eldon Cangas wrote:
Could someone please explain what grips 1 and 2 are. There must be a few more perhaps a short list would be beneficial. Thanks. Eldon


Are you referring to Bob Hoffnar's 2nd post? The way I read it was.... I thought Bob was referring to his own original post where he'd outlined 2 ways of playing the same chord.
The chord name is along the top - so C can be played with (fret 0,0,0,0) using strings 3 5 6 7 or (3,3,3H,3) using strings 4 6 7 8
...so Grip #1 = strings 3 5 6 7
Grip #2 = strings 4 6 7 8

So in his 2nd post he notes that you can find a version of the chord without levers/pedals except for the Bdim chord.....making sense?

There're obviously "standard" grips (these being 2 of them)...but I havent seen them numbered before...somebody out there may have a numbering system!
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Dick Chapple Sr


From:
Hardin Montana, USA
Post Posted 2 May 2017 8:31 am     C6th neck Reply with quote

This is very nice stuff. I learned by tablature in the later 1940's thanks to Oahu Music. I still play by tab. So this all makes instant sense because I must rely on tab.
I can play all of my C6th tab music written for 6 and 8 string non pedal automatically on the C6th neck of course.
Then I have been able to slowly remember what each pedal will do for me to avoid playing a slant.
It is a wonderful thing for those players that can play steel by notes. I can read music, sing from notes but I never was able to transfer note reading to steel guitar. Tab is it for me.
So I found these books to be very helpful, and there are so many more. The Sharp Music Manual for simplified music theory, Mike Neer's Steelin' Scales & Modes book, and Doug Beaumier's C6th tab books to name only a few as we have so many good tab books available from so many of our steel friends. These just happen to be the first ones I bought in recent years. I have all of Scotty's C6th books and so many others as well.
The common string grips on 6 string C6th are 1,2,3; 2,3,5; 3,5,6; and 1,2,4; 2,4,5; and 4,5,6. first 3 grips involve the 6th note. The second 3 grips do not.
On 10 string those grips then are 2,3,4; 3,4,6; 4,6,7; and 2,3,5; 3,5,6; and 5,6,7.
Perhaps this info may not be much help but it sure has allowed me to be active on my C6th neck too.
Smile Smile
Dick
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