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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 4 Jan 2013 10:06 am    
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There are no moving parts at all. You just rock the whole thing back and forth with your foot. If you like to take your foot off the volume pedal as you play it would be pretty tricky to get used to. It could be done by setting the bypass volume easy enough but you would need to change your volume pedal technique.

I'm thinking it will make a very handy cheap/reliable backup pedal if I get used to it. So far so good.
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Len Amaral

 

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Post  Posted 7 Jan 2013 3:44 pm    
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I have the Hilton, telonics, Goodrich, etc. However, shamelessly I have a buch of guitars and I need hocky equipment to stop banging my head under one steel to put the VP under another.

A local music store had the new Fender VP made overseas and the output is on the wrong side but at $59.00 I decided to try it and it is pretty good and several of these pedals are cheaper than hockey equipment. Standard pot though but sounds OK to my ears.
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Micky Byrne


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2013 3:26 am    
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Thanks Greg and Bob, but when you add shipping fees, and we have this crazy thing our stupid Government has issued years ago called V.A.T. (Value added tax)..which is 17.5% extra on top of the original price and shipping, we have to watch our pennies. Also sometimes we have to pay import duties when things come from the States Sad ....no moving parts sounds good though Very Happy

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.
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Jay Ganz


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2013 6:12 am    
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b0b wrote:
I'm interested in the sound quality.


Yeah...so, any consensus on this from those who've checked it out?
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2013 7:06 am    
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The sound quality to my ear is pristine. Accurate with no change from the loudest to the quietest. The issue with the pedal for me is getting used to how it feels under my foot.
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Olli Haavisto


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Post  Posted 8 Jan 2013 2:05 pm    
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Micky:

http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=15279
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2013 8:17 pm    
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I used it on a gig today and it worked fine. No problems at all. After half a tune I forgot about it. I didn't expect it to feel so natural. Same sort of tonal quality and response as other non pot pedals.

Light,small,cheap and simple.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2013 8:34 pm    
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That's valuable info Bob. Thanks for your reports on the pedal. Most helpful.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2013 1:12 am    
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Bob, do you double-foot? If so, did it handle it ok?
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 16 Jan 2013 1:32 am    
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I do not double foot. It could be done with the pedal by setting the volume on the bypass feature but it would be tricky.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2013 4:21 am    
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what do I do with the 3 other V Pedals ( 1 Pot, 2 Light ) that I like and use and have been trouble free forever...??

For Sale old outdated obsolete Gooodrich LDR , list $269...

for sale $25 or best offer...


I don't think so...
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 16 Jan 2013 5:29 pm    
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Turns out electro harmonix is working on a holder for the pedal so it will feel and work like a standard pedal. I have no idea when it will be available for sale.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jan 2013 10:18 pm    
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Just looking at the pictures, I can see a couple places where you might could bracket it with an open box screwed together from scrap 1X2 pine... so it would stay where you put it. Might need a spring if your foam's weak. I will be the first to admit my Goodrich was awesomely regulated by some duck-taped on chunks of memory foam, and my current Hilton is greatly improved by the Sanford Magic Rub eraser* threaded onto the paperclip framing apparatus.... Rolling Eyes If you can't fix it with a coathanger and a hammer, it's probably not worth owning anyway.



*(model #1954)
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 17 Jan 2013 9:30 pm    
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It uses an accelerometer like iPads have to control the volume. Looks surprisingly sturdy. I have a few recording sessions coming up next week. I'll try it out if I can get away with it.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2013 9:45 pm    
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I have brought it out for a few gigs now and I'm not getting used to it. The feel of a pedal with no resistance at all just does not feel right so far. I'll check out the stand/holder they are working on and see how that goes.
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Bill Myers


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Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 31 Jan 2013 2:45 am    
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This is a really interesting design. I'll be curious to see the stand they create for this. It's a shame that EHX didn't realize that there was a large market with pedal steel players for a volume pedal such as this. I know their primary market is 6 string players...but I only know a small handful of 6 string players that use a volume pedal. I don't know a single steel player that doesn't use a volume pedal.
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Helmut Gragger


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Austria
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2013 2:22 pm    
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I once had notions of creating a pedal that uses a magnet position sensor or whatever contactless sensing method plus a microcontroller that translates the response to a useful log pot taper. The audio path would therefore be completely analog.

After all I realized I ended up with what Telonics sell, and if something is already available you donĀ“t need to re-invent the wheel.

My Digitech multi-FX in contrast has an expression pedal on it that does exactly what I want plus a lot more. The signal path is completely digital, but you would not know - and I am picky.

However, because those devices have very little hardware on them, everything is software, they are comparably cheap. If the mechanics are solved properly and the software is written properly then nothing speaks against such a pedal. Tone sucking would be not object and the pedal might even be programmable.

It looks like they have done it that way. Several things speak for it.

I would prefer such a pedal any time over a pot pedal with questionable taper law and an even more questionable supply of spares. If it were only for the lap or console, the Digitech would be the end of all discussions, unfortunately it does not easily fit under a pedal steel. The EH might be the answer to this.

Electro Harmonix wrote:
Ultra-rugged. No pots, footswitches or gears to break

Yeah, exept the cables Razz

-helmut
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Stefan Robertson


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Hertfordshire, UK
Post  Posted 28 Apr 2017 2:43 am    
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Just tried it at a store. Amazingly smooth. I just ordered one online so should have it home next week.
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Stu Schulman


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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 1:01 am    
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I'm gonna see if my local music store has one,I'll probably buy it!
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Bryan Staddon


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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 5:13 am     Quick Question
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What is double foot used for? Any examples? Thanks
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Len Amaral

 

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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 5:20 am    
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Sometime after this thread was originally started, I picked up one of these EH volume pedals. My experience was the same as Bob Hofner. I could not get a comfortable feel for the volume pedal.
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 6:31 am     Re: Quick Question
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Bryan Staddon wrote:
What is double foot used for? Any examples? Thanks


It just means a player occasionally uses 2 feet to press 2 or more foot pedals. It's more common for C6th players to do this. It's rare among E9th pickers.

When 2-footin' you would want the VP to stay where it was when you took your foot off of it. So, the question becomes...how does this new pedal work in this application.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 9:01 am    
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I am a non-pedal player so my feet are free and its perfect. I can't believe how smooth the volume swell is.

Am looking forward to putting it through the everyday paces.
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Gerald Shaw

 

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Florida, USA
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2017 2:06 pm    
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I'm ok with the sound and the feel of the pedal, the issue for me, is the way the volume comes on . As soon as I move the pedal to where I get sound, I feel like I get 75-80% of the max volume. The other 90% of the throw just gives you the other 20%. It's almost like an ON/OFF thing. I usually play with 50% of the volume in reserve, so it doesn't work for me.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 30 Apr 2017 3:33 pm    
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You can recalibrate it based on your preferences.
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