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Tony Dingus

 

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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2017 5:21 pm    
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What is your copedant with 5 floor pedals on your E9 ?

Tony
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Tim Russell


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Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 2:55 am    
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On a 5/4 Sierra that I owned back in the 80's...

Standard Emmons setup on pedals 1-3 & the 4 knees;

P4 was 5 & 10 lower, B- Bb, and P5 was 3 & 6 lower, G# to G on 3rd. string, and I dropped the 6th string to F#. It was a fun guitar to play, the pedal/knee arrangement worked out well...wish I still owned it.

Thinking about it, today I may put the Franklin change on P4 though...
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 6:14 am    
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I put the 1st and 2nd string raise (to G#and E) on P1, A, B, C in 2-4, and I drop 5 and 10 to A with P5.
Because I put the 1st and 2nd string raise on the floor, I can combine it with the whole tone drop of 2, so I pull 2 up to unison, then pull it down to the dom7, like in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUykptG6DBQ
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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 7:34 am    
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After A,B,C pedals I would add:

Pedal 0 (far left by the A pedal) raise 6 G# a whole step to ++A#

and at the far right for the right foot, raise 5 B to +++D.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 8:04 am    
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I like that, Earnest.
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Tony Dingus

 

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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 6:29 pm    
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Earnest, I've been thinking about adding the 5th string B to D. Thanks everybody for your replies.

Tony
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Brint Hannay

 

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Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 17 Apr 2017 8:03 pm    
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I'm not sure what one would use the 5th string B to D for, as I've never had it, or found myself wishing I did, but I know Paul Franklin uses or has used that change, so I'm sure it's of value.

But I have the "zero" pedal 6th string G# to A#, and while I don't use it constantly I find it's a very nice addition to the E9th tuning, with a variety of uses.
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Rich Peterson


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Moorhead, MN
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 8:57 am    
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Brint Hannay wrote:
I'm not sure what one would use the 5th string B to D for, as I've never had it, or found myself wishing I did, but I know Paul Franklin uses or has used that change, so I'm sure it's of value.

https://youtu.be/PNMvxYqXw8I?list=PLZSegR93p6mTANGKsgYQY6Mo1-CA_lPBM
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Rich Peterson


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Moorhead, MN
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 8:57 am    
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Brint Hannay wrote:
I'm not sure what one would use the 5th string B to D for, as I've never had it, or found myself wishing I did, but I know Paul Franklin uses or has used that change, so I'm sure it's of value.

https://youtu.be/PNMvxYqXw8I?list=PLZSegR93p6mTANGKsgYQY6Mo1-CA_lPBM
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Andy DePaule


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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 1:11 pm     Mine is always changing, but....
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Mine is always changing, but I like the pedal to bring the 1st and 2nd string up to G# & E for the unisons.
On my new Mullen that just got finished today I will have something else. but if I don't like it I'll go back to the Unisons.
On my 1st & 2nd pedal I get A6th all across.
2nd, 3rd and 4th are the standard ABC pedals.
I'm going to be using the 3rd E9th pedal for the first time in many years because i raise my 4th string to F# on my RKR.
If I don't like the pedal I'll put one of my other changes there...
My first 3 pedals are my main ones when I play gigs and the other two are for goofing around.
I've used C# on my 2nd and 9th string for many years.
This is to help deal with a disability I have but is cool anyway.






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Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
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John Goux

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 21 Apr 2017 10:28 pm    
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+1 on Ernest's B to D.

For zero pedal, I've had success with these:
On 10 string:
G# to G because it is great for parallel 6ths, and next to the A pedal minor chords.
B to Bb so you can play minors with descending roots, with the A pedal
G# to F# because it doesn't take up a knee, and is one pedal away from the B, ( for sus4-3-2-3)

On 12 string:
Ask Rick Schmidt.
J
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Andy DePaule


From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
Post  Posted 22 Apr 2017 6:44 am     Ernest's B to D, Penatonic
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John Goux wrote:
+1 on Ernest's B to D.
For zero pedal, I've had success with these:
J


His B to D pull is a good one when playing Penatonic single note runs.

I also have played around with this in the past and it works very well if next to the pedal that raises the first two strings a half step also.


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2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
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Chris Brooks

 

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Providence, Rhode Island
Post  Posted 22 Apr 2017 1:34 pm    
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Like some others here, I have my A, B, and C pedals as pedals 2, 3, and 4.

On 1, G# to G is a great change used alone; but in combination with normal Pedal A you get a minor 6 chord . . . with contrary motion!

My pedal 5 lowers 5 and 6 a whole tone. This is nice with the E to D# lever as another kind of dominant 7 chord.

Chris
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2017 1:56 am    
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I'm with Brit on the G#-A# change on pedal 1 (or "0"). In conjunction with the A pedal, it's great for creating melodic motion through a dominant ninth, two frets down from open position. Also nice for getting the 7th scale degree melodically when you're using the open position as a IV chord.
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Andy DePaule


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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2017 8:41 am     Not sure I understand?
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Chris Brooks wrote:
Like some others here, I have my A, B, and C pedals as pedals 2, 3, and 4.

On 1, G# to G is a great change used alone; but in combination with normal Pedal A you get a minor 6 chord . . . with contrary motion!

My pedal 5 lowers 5 and 6 a whole tone. This is nice with the E to D# lever as another kind of dominant 7 chord.

Chris


Hi Chris,
Back in 1978 with my Sho-Bud crossover I had the G# to G on pedal one also for some time. Liked using it for chord scale runs up and down the neck.

Not sure what you mean by a minor 6th with pedal A B to C#? Do you mean an Em chord with a major 6th or am I not seeing something?

Also not sure what this means "contrary motion"?
Thanks for your addition to the page
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
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