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b0b
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 1:12 pm |
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(moved from an ad in the Classifieds)
I'm sure Dan will be very happy with it, as I am with my 1978 Sierra Olympic:
A short post by Jake Bopp was accidentally deleted in the xfer:
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| Now you're just rubbing it in, Bob. 😀 |
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Tim Russell
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 1:47 pm
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| Jake Bopp wrote: |
| Now you're just rubbing it in, Bob. 😀 |
Of course he is, lol.
This thread really makes me miss my 83' S-10 Sierra, 5 & 4. It was a fantastic guitar. Eventually, traded it in on a D-10 Sierra, which I loved...but I wish I could have kept the S-10 as well.
My D-10 weighs 60 lb., and 90 in the case.
Sierras are heavy, yes... but that's what they make hand carts for... 
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John Russell
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 2:30 pm
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| Tim sums it up perfectly. Sierras are exceptional instruments--but heavy. They were the Cadillac of pedal steels back in the day. Not cheap either. |
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Scott Nipper
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Folsom, California, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 2:50 pm Sierra S-12 5x4
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How might that compare to my '74 Sho-Bud 6160 S-12? I'm kind of new and just bought this bud. Moved up from a Carter Starter. It's a nice improvement, and I tend to like the different levers (E lever is on RKL instead of LKR) and I'm loving the 12 strings (I'm a guitar player), it's Extended E9. But it's old and pedals seem super sensitive (it's 3x4) - if I don't really push them all the way down then it's not on pitch. Just thinking I might have done better ($1500). Seems pretty solid, definitely looks it's age, especially underneath.
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 3:50 pm Re: Sho~Bud
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| I don't know the weight of the 'Bud. Probably lighter--it's on a single body. I suggest finding a steel guitar player/tech to help you set the guitar up. It can be made to play real well. Great tone too. Parts are available online for those. I played a Pro-1 model S10 Sho~Bud for about 20 years. |
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Tim Heidner
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Groves, TX
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 4:22 pm
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Now he's rubbing it in some more!  |
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Tim Russell
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 4:54 pm
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Scott,
I agree with John on that Sho-Bud, as far as going over it a bit & setting it up for you, maybe looking at the changer to see if it is in need of a cleaning. My first steel was a Sho-Bud S-10, 6 pedals, 1 knee. Always loved their sound.
I'm sure a bit of fine tuning and adjustment will make you very happy with that one.
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John Russell
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 4:59 pm
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Scott, if you do all that and still aren't happy, contact me. I turned down a deal on a Sho~Bud S12 over 20 years ago and regretted it ever since.  |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 18 Apr 2017 8:45 pm
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| Thanks, Mike. That looks pretty sweet. It's got the good undercarriage. If I bought it, there goes a couple of weeks of my life adding the changes I need for my setup--and several hundred bucks. Tempting. Considering the cost of a new, natural finish guitar that looks that good, very tempting. |
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Scott Nipper
From:
Folsom, California, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2017 2:00 pm Sierra S-12
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I had my instructor, Pete Grant, help me with some adjustments and it's playing pretty sweet now. Amazing why a few minor tweaks here and there can do! And the tone is the real effin' deal. I played it through his Telonics and, oh man, what a sound. Even with my playing! When he got on it, fuggetaboutit.
The one on e-bay is nice. Undercarriage is a little cleaner than mine but that case....sheesh...can you say road-worn? My case is in great shape.
What's the foam in the undercarriage for? Just to dampen the rod movement noise?
thanks!
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Apr 2017 2:03 pm Re: Sierra S-12
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| ... my instructor, Pete Grant... |
I took lessons from Pete too, back in the 80s. He was a great teacher. I'm a better player because of him.
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 12:43 am Re: Sierra S-12
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Great guitars...in 1978 I worked at a keyboard and guitar shop in North London U.K. I asked the owner if we could sell steel guitars.We got hold of Don Christionson (spell). This was in Portland Oregon. We ordered 8 Sierras. Some 10 strings and 2 Single 12's. We sold the lot in a short space of time. Heavy..yes, but so well made 
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Dean Rimmer
From:
texas
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 10:56 am
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| i have played a 10 string session for the last 12 years....light n stays in tune waaaay better than i do....also i've beat it up pretty good......n still plays great.....love sierra guitars |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 1:15 pm
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| I always wanted to try a keyed Sierra. Has the Session 12 keyless. Nice guitar and easy to make changes. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 1:33 pm
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Len, didn't I buy the black one pictured above from you? I might be wrong - it was so long ago.
Talking about weight, that Sierra Olympic is the heaviest guitar I've even owned. Shipping weight in the case was 90 lbs. 
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Archie Nicol
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Ayrshire, Scotland
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 3:29 pm Re: Sierra S-12
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| Micky Byrne wrote: |
Great guitars...in 1978 I worked at a keyboard and guitar shop in North London U.K. I asked the owner if we could sell steel guitars.We got hold of Don Christionson (spell). This was in Portland Oregon. We ordered 8 Sierras. Some 10 strings and 2 Single 12's. We sold the lot in a short space of time. Heavy..yes, but so well made
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Yep.
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 3:55 pm
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B0b:
I don't remember having a 12 string keyed Sierra. I bought 3 new keyless Sierra Session guitars and I bought a used 12 string keyless just to get the Danny Shields pickup then gave the guitar to a friend.
I traded a guitar for a keyed Sierra Double neck but only had it a short time. I always had it in my mind to play a U-12 keyed Sierra to hear the difference between both guitars.
Heavy guitars but when I was younger it wasn't an issue. Now😩 |
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Dan Kimpel
From:
Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 5:33 pm
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| Mine should be here Tuesday, I'm looking forward to joining the club. It looks like I'm getting an s12 pre-rp mullen too, but I think I'll have to adjust the copedent when I get it. |
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Dan Kimpel
From:
Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 5:36 pm
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Jake Bopp
From:
Tallahassee, FL
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Posted 20 Apr 2017 7:58 pm
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| I'm a little salty about not getting that steel Dan got. It's ok though, I bought a BMI s-10 the next day. Getting a full setup and stuff before it gets mailed down to me. |
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Dan Kimpel
From:
Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2017 12:16 am
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I'm sure another one will come up. I've been looking for an s12 for quite a while now, and now I've got 2 on the way.
Jake, what's the pedal/ knee lever set up on the BMI? |
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Jake Bopp
From:
Tallahassee, FL
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Posted 21 Apr 2017 6:01 am
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| 4x4 with the Franklin change. Pretty straight forward, I'm sure it'll be beneficial starting out where the most information exists for beginners. It's a nice guitar, and I don't think I could have purchased it from a nicer guy. I plan on documenting my journey on YouTube. There's nothing like that on there, someone's day one setting up the steel and noodling around - then whatever progress I make as I post videos. |
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Dan Kimpel
From:
Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2017 12:37 pm
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| Cool, post a link on the forum here, I'm sure plenty of us would watch. |
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Dan Kimpel
From:
Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2017 3:41 pm
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So I've got the guitar, and it's great. It is in fair shape, but I am going to clean the changer when I get a chance. I've got a couple questions though:
1. What are these holes for? The discs behind the changer?
2. Only the middle coil works on this, and one of the selling points of this guitar was I thought it was a humbucker. How would I go about changing this to work as a humbucker? Ideally I'd like to be able to switch back and forth, but if I only get one it's definitely the 'bucker.
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