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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 5:02 pm    
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I've heard it numerous times and it sounds amazing but I have no idea what to call it or how to explain it. Other then the chords seem to kinda melt into each other as if you were detuning and it gets kind of a dragging feel into the next chord. Best example I can give is strike string 7 on fret 10 slide down to fret 9 then strike string 6 and slide down to fret 8. I love this sound but there is obviously some licks or a name for this technique. And I'm dying to know or learn more!! Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!!
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Bruce Bishop

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 5:45 pm    
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Does it sound a little like " Momma Tried " ?
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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 5:59 pm    
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Yes it does to an extent the application Im referring to is usually used with full grips I believe and kinda morphs into another chord sort of like a counterpoint but kinda gets a detuning kinda sound from point to point. I'll see if I can find a video of an example in a song
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Kevin Skrla


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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 6:12 pm    
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I too would like to know what this is called. I use it as a passing chord/lick from V back to I, but I don't really know what I'm doing.

I think of it like this...In C for example...
At AB pedals down V chord position (fret 10), I start one fret above on 7 string (fret 11), slide back down one fret (fret 10), strike 6 then slide down two frets and engage E lower lever. Then you can strike string 5 and let off A pedal and you're at a V7. Hit string 4 and release E lever and B pedal, and you've resolved to the I chord.
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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 6:12 pm    
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Here's an example mike Johnson uses some pretty close examples.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.facebook.com/dougderamus/posts/1368366989864707&ved=0ahUKEwjT5o-guK_TAhXl64MKHfaeDV0QFggdMAA&usg=AFQjCNEgCn3tE9IY6yXw-9yzojpQMjqx3Q
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Bruce Bishop

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 7:19 pm    
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This is a simple 5 to the 1 using string 6 move down 1 Fret string 5 move down 1 fret & etc.

Played by Jimmy Church on youtube link


https://youtu.be/fcbG1QVwO5o
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Bruce Bishop

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 18 Apr 2017 7:30 pm    
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Andy this clip you posted of MJ is great !
Counter points ?

Let me know if the one I posted that Jimmy Church was helpful . May not even be close

Thanks Bruce
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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 3:42 am    
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Yes sir everything is always a help. I can't soak up enough knowledge.
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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 4:05 am    
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Not the exact move you're describing, Andy, but check out this video of Steve Palousek playing "I Love You So Much It Hurts Me". There is a LOT going on with a combination of pedal, knee lever, and bar moves to get that "syrupy" sound and smoothly "morph" from one chord to the next. Steve is a monster player...(don't ask me to tab this one out!) Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W8ZzK8Xo9k
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Henry Matthews


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Texarkana, Ark USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 6:12 am    
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Is this the lick you are talking about. Check out the very ending of this song. It has a lovely descending lick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3j1BMmgwsM
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ajm

 

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Los Angeles
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 7:04 am    
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Bruce Bishop (or anyone else): In the Jimmy Church video, is he playing a Day set up?

When he mentions the A and B pedals, and you watch his ankle, something looks backwards.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 7:49 am    
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ajm wrote:
Bruce Bishop (or anyone else): In the Jimmy Church video, is he playing a Day set up?

When he mentions the A and B pedals, and you watch his ankle, something looks backwards.


Yup.
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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 9:22 am    
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Jeff Garden wrote:
Not the exact move you're describing, Andy, but check out this video of Steve Palousek playing "I Love You So Much It Hurts Me". There is a LOT going on with a combination of pedal, knee lever, and bar moves to get that "syrupy" sound and smoothly "morph" from one chord to the next. Steve is a monster player...(don't ask me to tab this one out!) Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W8ZzK8Xo9k


Love Steves playing and that is exactly what I'm talking about. I wish I could learn a few of those techniques.
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Jerry Jones


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Franklin, Tenn.
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 10:46 am    
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Or Buddy's lick @ 5:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6M24i-ao4M
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Andy Gill

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 19 Apr 2017 11:03 am    
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Oh yeah that's most definitely it!! How sweet it is too. Love that sound and t e cinque.
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Ron Bryson

 

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Bonifay, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 20 Apr 2017 10:26 am    
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What about the lick after the second line of "Slide off of Your Satin Sheets" (Paycheck)
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