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Richard Nelson


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 9:25 am    
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Anyone got an old review of this album when it came out . Or direct me to one please .
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2017 8:56 pm    
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There's a review on the back of the 1993 CD release (as you may already know). Try to google Billboard magazine archives, it's a site were they scanned all their issues. Good luck!
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Frank Freniere


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2017 5:57 am    
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I believe "Downbeat" magazine gave it a positive review at the time.
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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2017 8:29 pm    
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I found this poor scan of the Downbeat Magazine review on the SGF many years ago:




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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2017 9:06 pm    
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It would be very interesting to interview Charli Persip, the only living member of the group that recorded the album with Emmons. I would love to know what he and the rest of the band were thinking at the time, their impressions of Buddy, the material, the album in general, etc. Persip, now 87, apparently still teaches at the New School in NYC, and leads the band Supersound.
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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 5:52 am    
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If Buddy wasn't an original stylist, I guess we can all check our guitars at the door....

Reminiscent of the "appreciation" and revisit NPR did of Buddy, Steel Guitar Jazz and his subsequent career as a solo artist a few years back. It was positive, but I wouldn't go as far as to say glowing.

Kind of reminds me a review in Variety for a band I was in the 70s. They mentioned my name and noted the I "ably handled the instrumental sections". At the time I was disappointed, but reading other reviews in that issue I can to realize it was positive.
What my father used to call "a back handed compliment".
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 9:16 am    
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If Buddy wasn't an original stylist, I guess we can all check our guitars at the door....

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I take it that the reviewer was speaking from a jazz musicians point of view rather than a steel guitarists point of view.. Confused
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Bill Cunningham


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 9:46 am    
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Jim Cohen wrote:
It would be very interesting to interview Charli Persip, the only living member of the group that recorded the album with Emmons. I would love to know what he and the rest of the band were thinking at the time, their impressions of Buddy, the material, the album in general, etc. Persip, now 87, apparently still teaches at the New School in NYC, and leads the band Supersound.


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 10:59 am    
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Hi Michael,
I can see how one could read what I wrote and be offended. I meant no harm and apologize for my poor choice of words (no pun intended). On the contrary, I really appreciate the fact that you posted it many moons ago - I didn't know it was you who had. Without you taking the time to post it here, few of us would have ever seen the original. In fact, it's my only copy. Thanks!!
all the best,
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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 11:11 am    
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Jim Cohen-

I contacted Mr. Persip in 2010 when researching Buddy's book. He was very polite but in no way wanted to be interviewed. Apparently 1963 was a very dark year for him on a personal level, and he pointedly said to me he did not want to relive the memory of those days again.

Buddy had very fond memories of his time in the studio with Charli Persip. If you get through to him and he changes his mind about an interview, go for it! Ask him if he remembers how disorganized the sessions were on the first day because there were no charts prepared due to a misunderstanding with Quincy Jones. Buddy and the band more or less jammed through the entire record, which is the way to go if you ask me.

I sure love that album!

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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 4:09 pm    
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Barry,
Your assessment is spot on. The wtiter was no doubt coming from a perspective of a jazz reviewer in that time and place, while when look at that review it's hard to separate my reverence for Buddy and the hindsight of 55 years of all E accomplished in his career.
What continues to blow my mind was that he was only 21 when he made that album. Just amazing.
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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2017 5:17 pm    
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Michael-

Your original copy of the GP review is a first for me. Thanks for posting.

Regarding Leonard Feather: if anyone on the Forum has ever seen - or better yet has a copy of - a review of any kind by Feather of Steel Guitar Jazz, I would love to see it. I've heard rumors about it but have never been able to substantiate it's existence.

Thank you.
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Jim Cohen


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Michael Lee Allen wrote:
For comparison there was a tenor player who doubled flute, his name was Rufus Harley, and he did an entire LP (or two) of jazz on bagpipes.

Hah! Never thought I'd read Rufus' name on the SGF! He played at my wedding! Smile
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Jim, did Rufus play bagpipes at your wedding? And if so, I didn't know you were Irish Winking O'Cohen?
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Richard Nelson


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Fantastic set of photos and reviews . . Thank you all so much for your help .
Fish , this book you mentioned ? Is it available ? Or have you a draft I could read . I'm doing a masters in Jazz performance and my dissertation is on THE RIGHTFUL PLACE OF PEDAL STEEL GUITAR IN JAZZ or words to that effect .
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Jim Cohen


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Craig Stock wrote:
Jim, did Rufus play bagpipes at your wedding? And if so, I didn't know you were Irish Winking O'Cohen?

Yes, he did play bagpipes, but just to lead the procession out of the church. He cut quite a figure, as an African-American bagpiper in a kilt! And you think my background is mixed up...? Wink


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