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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 8 Feb 2017 6:44 pm     Reply with quote

Here is a little exercise that some folks may enjoy. For A6, G6 or C6 w/- high G. Cleanliness beats speed. Email me for pdf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrmEWN-G4Y
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Stefan Robertson


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Post Posted 9 Feb 2017 1:02 pm     Reply with quote

wtf Guy that is great. I need to work on my scales more.
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Jim Cohen


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Post Posted 9 Feb 2017 1:07 pm     Reply with quote

Guy, that looks like a great workout. Do you have an mp3 of you playing through it? Would love to hear that.
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Andy Volk


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Post Posted 9 Feb 2017 3:12 pm     Reply with quote

Very impressive, Guy!
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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 9 Feb 2017 4:59 pm     Reply with quote

Cheers, Andy. Here is an mp3, Jim. Not so impressive, warts and all, but I only nutted this out yesterday as a workout for the 5 position minor. But it's coming along.
http://picosong.com/rpty

Thanks Stefan. If you examine this piece closely, you will see that the essence of it is in the arpeggios. For me, scales are important as a reference point but I rarely practice them. The difficulty in this exercise, as I see it, is in the cross string picking which misses strings out. This would be a good preliminary exercise to help get the opening statement clean.
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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 9 Feb 2017 9:16 pm     Reply with quote

Or maybe this as a preliminary exercise:


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Andy Costigan


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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Post Posted 6 Mar 2017 3:25 pm     Reply with quote

thanks for all your posts Guy.

After getting interested in Just Intonation for steel guitar & just intonation in general, I stumbled on Bradley Lehman's solution to Bach's temperament for keyboard instruments.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bpl/larips/index.html

here's a comparison of Lehman-Bach, Equal and Werckmeister temperaments for Bach's Prelude in C major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8M-JzIwbog

here's a great site on just intonation for harmonica
http://www.patmissin.com/tunings/audio.html
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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 1:21 pm     Reply with quote

Cheers, Andy.

Those intonation systems are a bit over my head, I'm afraid. I just tune my major thirds down a cent or two and hope for the best.

There must be a bit more steel activity over there on the east coast. There are a few Reso players and a couple of psg guys here, but I don't know any lap players in Adelaide. Thank goodness for the SGF.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 2:40 pm     Reply with quote

Andy, that was a very interesting page on Bach's tuning as he'd specify it to a tuner. I'd probably have walked out, thinking Lynard Skynard is easier, but it would've been worth it to hear how he got there.

Imagine a piano with 25 keys per octave, or levers to change the hammer strike or possibly the string length, like a pedal steel,
if that's what he was actually describing for a moment there....
I enjoyed it quite a bit. Thanks for the links.
But sure, they both sounded good in C.

Actually, I liked the Bach-Lehman better. Has a smoother quality, to me, maybe less high harmonic (inharmonic) activity. Cool stuff.
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Andy Costigan


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Post Posted 7 Mar 2017 3:20 pm     Reply with quote

a piano like this Charlie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Cq3pbcMkI
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Charlie McDonald


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Post Posted 8 Mar 2017 4:59 am     Reply with quote

Wow, it's real, it's mechanical, and sounds old. Thanks!
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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 3 Apr 2017 5:45 pm     Reply with quote

Here is the full enchilada for those who might be interested (probably not many, but nevertheless..)

The B section is all quite doable but those semidemiquavers in the last four bars are never going to be much more than a smear. I still think the hardest thing about this piece is the first two bars,

With a chord chart and those last bars simplified, I think it could work as a swing, Jacques Loussier style.




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Guy Cundell


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Post Posted 3 Apr 2017 5:49 pm     Reply with quote

Swing it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iQnd6wkCis

Alternatively....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-w8gIDktU
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