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Jack Stoner


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Inverness, Fl
Post Posted 16 Jan 2017 6:32 am     Reply with quote

I have the new 2017 BIAB. My wife was given a like new Hammond organ by our church. It has a 3.5 floppy disk reader and will play MIDI files.

I tried saving from BIAB and the mid files will not play. I tried saving as a "Type 1" and as "Type 0" neither is compatible. However, I saved a mid file from RealBand and the mid file plays. What is the difference? or how do I save the file as a playable mid in BIAB?
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Jim Smerk


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Post Posted 16 Jan 2017 11:41 am     Reply with quote

I rarely use midi nowadays, staying with the Real Tracks & adding my own, but I can say the PG Music forums are extremely helpful, just like this one! Cool
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Jack Stoner


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Post Posted 17 Jan 2017 3:15 am     Reply with quote

I would have expected PG Support to respond to my query but they haven't, even if it was to use the forum.

I use MIDI quite a bit in my recording program, Sonar.
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Larry Haas


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Morganton, North Carolina USA
Post Posted 18 Jan 2017 5:17 pm     Re: Saving as MID file Reply with quote

Jack Stoner wrote:
I have the new 2017 BIAB. My wife was given a like new Hammond organ by our church. It has a 3.5 floppy disk reader and will play MIDI files.

I tried saving from BIAB and the mid files will not play. I tried saving as a "Type 1" and as "Type 0" neither is compatible. However, I saved a mid file from RealBand and the mid file plays. What is the difference? or how do I save the file as a playable mid in BIAB?


Hey Jack
Tony Prior gave me some good advise about doing this.
Save it as a midi file but save it out of BIAB. Make a new folder in Music and name it whatever you want then when you punch on the midi icon there is a place that should say " save it to disk ". Punch that and save it to the new file.
Hope this works for you.

Larry
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Jack Stoner


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Post Posted 19 Jan 2017 3:25 am     Reply with quote

Larry, thanks but I've tried that early on.

I've saved it every way I can find in BIAB.
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Ian Worley


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Sacramento, CA
Post Posted 19 Jan 2017 11:50 am     Reply with quote

Midi is powerful, but not always entirely intuitive. Have you tried using the generic GM midi driver? BiaB uses a soft synth by default so the midi data is mapped to it.

Go into Opt> "Use/Set alternate midi output driver for session", see what happens. Disabling the VST synth before you export would accomplish the same thing, Opt> MIDI/Audio driver setup, it's a radio button in the right column.

I'm guessing the organ has been around a while if it uses a floppy disk. Do you have a manual for the it? If you know the specific midi channels/patches the organ uses you can change/set the mappings for each BiaB instrument under Opt> Preferences> MIDI Options> click the "Channels" button.
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Jack Stoner


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Inverness, Fl
Post Posted 19 Jan 2017 11:57 am     Reply with quote

The manual we got does not detail anything about MIDI other than it uses MIDI files, either generated externally or recorded internally with the floppy drive.

I'm waiting on a PCIe USB 2.0 expansion card and a cable so I can do more experimentation.

I'm still puzzled as to why a BIAB, saved, MIDI file will not play and the same BIAB song opened in RealBand and then saved as MIDI works.
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Ian Worley


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Post Posted 19 Jan 2017 12:08 pm     Reply with quote

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Jack Stoner


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Inverness, Fl
Post Posted 19 Jan 2017 1:58 pm     Reply with quote

I'm going to try the MIDI files in Sonar (Platinum). See if it will import, correctly, into Sonar and play (and save) using Sonar. Another option.

I have a solution, use RealBand, but it doesn't have all the options that BIAB has.
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