INSTRUCTION STRINGS ACCESSORIES MUSIC LINKS
 Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com for Steel Guitars, Strings, Instruction, Music and Accessories 
Forum Index
where steel players meet online
The Steel Guitar Forum

Post new topic Forced shutdown, Windows
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Forced shutdown, Windows
Charlie McDonald


From:
out of the blue
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 8:13 am     Reply with quote

My computer mechanic, Bubba, tells me that instead of holding the on-button down til it shuts off
to unplug the power and remove the battery, to avoid marking up the hard drive. It seems to work fine.

Is there anything unsound about his advice?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 8:33 am     Reply with quote

Remove the battery?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Howard Parker


From:
Clarksburg,MD USA
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 8:44 am     Reply with quote

"marking up the hard drive"?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Charlie McDonald


From:
out of the blue
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 8:52 am     Reply with quote

Yeah, he said forcing shutdown leaves a glitch on the drive.
Yep, removing the battery, then of course, putting it back in.

So far, not getting a lot of 'impressed's about Bubba's method.

I guess in short, if one needs to mechanically shut the unit down, is holding the button down any big deal?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Howard Parker


From:
Clarksburg,MD USA
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 9:26 am     Reply with quote

Best thing to do is to find out what app is hanging up and fix the problem.

The Bubba fix is no fix at all.

h
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Erv Niehaus


From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 9:32 am     Reply with quote

I think Bubba's alternate method to shutting it down is to use an ax! Whoa!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Wiz Feinberg


From:
Mid-Michigan, USA
Post Posted 11 Jan 2017 9:55 am     Reply with quote

The normal shutdown process does a bunch of important tasks that closes open processes, flushes out data from your RAM and updates time stamps of system files and previously opened files (last modified date). It also ensures that the file index stays intact.

A forced shutdown scatters parts of open files and programs, fails to update time stamps, messes up the file allocation table and slows down your computer as the effects multiply over time (it takes longer to recompile scattered parts of files). Correcting scattered files requires the use of the chkdsk utility, or built-in Windows troubleshooting tools.

Removing the battery from the motherboard resets the BIOS, eliminating any custom boot options that may have been instituted. It also clears any password that may have been placed on the BIOS, protecting it against MBR/BIOS altering malware. It may also change which hardware is detected and activated during the boot process.

The bottom line is to find out what is causing bad shutdowns or hangs and fix them.

As for Bubba, didn't he shoot the jukebox?
_________________
"Wiz" Feinberg, Moderator SGF Computers Forum
Security Consultant
Twitter: @Wizcrafts
Main web pages: Wiztunes Steel Guitar website | Wiz's Security Blog | My Webmaster Services | Acronis True Image | Trend Micro Security | MalwareBytes
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Charlie McDonald


From:
out of the blue
Post Posted 16 Jan 2017 12:27 pm     Reply with quote

Is there any harm in leaving the laptop awake? Seems to idle coolly. Seems to cure the issue.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Wiz Feinberg


From:
Mid-Michigan, USA
Post Posted 16 Jan 2017 5:27 pm     Reply with quote

Charlie McDonald wrote:
Is there any harm in leaving the laptop awake? Seems to idle coolly. Seems to cure the issue.


Just keep the bottom lifted or sitting on a cooling surface with ventilation holes in it and set the display properties to shut off the display after x number of idle minutes, to save it from burn in.
_________________
"Wiz" Feinberg, Moderator SGF Computers Forum
Security Consultant
Twitter: @Wizcrafts
Main web pages: Wiztunes Steel Guitar website | Wiz's Security Blog | My Webmaster Services | Acronis True Image | Trend Micro Security | MalwareBytes
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Charlie McDonald


From:
out of the blue
Post Posted 16 Jan 2017 5:49 pm     Reply with quote

The bottom happens be lifted off the drawer surface, and the display setting is set.
Thank you~
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Wiz Feinberg


From:
Mid-Michigan, USA
Post Posted 17 Jan 2017 9:09 am     Reply with quote

You just have to make sure that the fan on the bottom or side isn't blocked.
_________________
"Wiz" Feinberg, Moderator SGF Computers Forum
Security Consultant
Twitter: @Wizcrafts
Main web pages: Wiztunes Steel Guitar website | Wiz's Security Blog | My Webmaster Services | Acronis True Image | Trend Micro Security | MalwareBytes
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
Charlie McDonald


From:
out of the blue
Post Posted 17 Jan 2017 10:44 am     Reply with quote

The side fan keeps my coffee warm. Not really. Neither does the Tardis fridge/warmer. We should expect more of our appliances.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Dale Gray


From:
Colorado, USA
Post Posted 29 Jan 2017 6:16 am     Reply with quote

I have heard of unplugging power cord, removing the battery, then holding down power button for 10 secs will remove static electricity.
_________________
GFI SD10. Session 500, Vegas 400, Oblong pedal, Rocket Scientist, TR-PHD. Bud Lite, doTERRA Essential Oils
WWW.mydoterra.com/ddg
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  

Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction,
steel guitars & accessories

www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

Steel Guitar Music
Instrumental steel guitar CDs for your permanent collection
www.SteelGuitarMusic.com

Please review our Forum Rules and Policies

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 South Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Support This Forum


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron
HTTP