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Dale Gamble


From:
Montana, USA
Post Posted 3 Jul 2013 9:39 pm     Reply with quote

I don't want to make any unconfirmed allegations, but let me tell you about a questionable response I received in response to a "Wanted to Buy" posting I made on June 30, 2013. You can decide what you think about it.

I posted a notice that I wanted to buy a Sierra 8-string lap steel, particularly one with the Cherry finish with legs and a case. At the time that I am writing this warning, there have been no responses to my posting through the Forum response system; however, on July 2, I received a direct response from a person identified as Leon Army, a Forum member who, according to the Forum membership listing, lives in Nova Scotia, Canada. In the email, I was asked if I was still interested in buying the Sierra. If so, he asked me for my mailing address so he could send "pictures" (note that he used the plural) and additional information about a particular guitar.

I immediately responded to the email by providing my mailing address. On July 3, 2013, I received a response to that email from someone identified as Jose Manuel. This email, however, came from a different email address than that of Leon Army. He included one picture of a black Sierra and said that it was "in good condition and work perfectly well." He further stated that it "look clean and excellent." He asked me to let him know how much I would be willing to offer for the guitar and told me how he would accept payment. My response to him was that I was not willing to make an offer with such little information and said I was not interested.

I write this only as a means of warning prospective buyers on the Forum that they should carefully consider all offers when the response does not come through normal Forum channels. Carefully consider all available information, not just the words spoken or written.
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b0b


From:
Northern California
Post Posted 3 Jul 2013 10:11 pm     Leon Army Reply with quote

I have suspended his membership, based on emails from another member with a similar but more detailed story.

I'm moving this post to the "Wanted To Buy" section, which is apparently where he has been trolling for unsuspecting victims.
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Dale Gamble


From:
Montana, USA
Post Posted 4 Jul 2013 12:14 am     Thank you, Bob Reply with quote

Thank you, Bob, for moving my post. I wasn't quite sure where it should have originally been posted. I just wanted to be sure that the good and honest Forum members were aware of this apparent scam. I happen to be retired law enforcement and nothing stinks any more than this one does.
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Mark van Allen


From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post Posted 5 Jul 2013 9:17 am     Reply with quote

Yes, I've just had the same sort of interchange with Leon Army, or Jose Manuel, or whoever he is... An unsolicited offer of my bid on a universal 12 string, when I responded to "Mr. Army", I got a reply from "Mr. Manuel" including photos directly lifted from another forumite's web page. He stated he only takes payment in Western Union or Bank Wire Transfer- a huge red flag common to many scammers. When I asked for more info and photos, he responded with the only other photo of that guitar from the same forumite webpage. Contact with that forumite revealed sale of the guitar to another distinct individual.

So with fairly high certainty, I conclude this character is a scammer of low order to be avoided at all costs. It would greatly pain me to think someone here got taken in a bad deal, and Mr. Army, or Manuel, or whatever you call yourself, I ask you to consider what your Grandmother would think of you...

Best wishes to all buyers, sellers, and swappers- and take reasonable care in your transactions!
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Bob Poole


From:
Myrtle Beach SC, USA
Post Posted 19 Jul 2013 5:08 am     scam Reply with quote

While I haven't come across this personally on the Forum,i just wanted to mention that trying to sell a couple of six strings on Craigs List before I was a Forum member,i got so many crazy responses to my ads...always wanting my address so that their "mover agent" that was in my area could come to my house,offering more than my asking price "if I could please kindly removes the item from Craigs List so they would know I had accepted their offer" also things like,"i need to be completely truthfuls and honest are item in condition spoke in ad"...I kept some of these just to laugh at.in most cases they wanted to send a lot of extra $$ that I would I deposit in my acct,then send them(via Western Union) what was left over after shipping...in almost every case,each communication with that person came from a different,usually g-mail address.i loved it when they wanted my address & times when someone would be home...yeah,doors unlocked,come on in....oh,don't mind the 85 lbs of black lab/rott mix,she'll eventually let go of your leg.
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Wiz Feinberg


From:
Mid-Michigan, USA
Post Posted 19 Sep 2013 8:28 am     Report email 419 scams to me Reply with quote

I maintain the IP blocklist used to keep Nigerian scammers off this forum. But, if a scammer actually pays and signs up for a legit account, it's hard to block him without knowing his geo-location and IP address. That is why I posted sticky information on the Computers section of the SGF, with detailed instructions for displaying the normally hidden email headers, and, either copying and pasting them into a new message, or forwarding scam emails to me as an attachment.

If I obtain the actual headers of a scam message, I may find a new, as yet unblocked IP address, possibly in Nigeria, or a neighboring country. This would be added to the Nigerian Blocklist that protects this and many other forums.

If you cannot display - copy - paste the complete headers, nor forward as an attachment, your normally forwarded email will be of no use to me.

Here is an example of email headers, from a LinkedIn scam I received today (w/malware links) and my own email address redacted:
Code:

Return-path: <headroomre793>
Envelope-to: REDACTED
Delivery-date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:46:44 -0600
Received: from [181.14.212.204] (port=19564 helo=host204.181-14-212.telecom.net.ar)
   by box684.bluehost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
   (envelope-from <headroomre793>)
   id 1VMfVD-0006rr-VP
   for REDACTED; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:46:44 -0600
Received: from  (192.168.1.76) by kg.is (181.14.212.204) with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:43 -0300
Message-ID: <523B0D14>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:46:43 -0300
From: "Kim Berthelsen via LinkedIn" <member>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 Lightning/1.5.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: <REDACTED>
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="------------03080700303040901080603"

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Ron Mawn


From:
United Kingdom
Post Posted 26 Oct 2013 3:06 am     Responce to a wanted advert Reply with quote

After recently putting a wanted ad in this section I received a responce from a reggiejones129@gmail.com
and says he lives in Spain with his family.
He used exactly the same phrasing as previous menbers had received, so he is still trying his hand at this scam.
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John Billings


From:
Ohio, USA
Post Posted 4 May 2015 10:11 am     Reply with quote

I have gotten emails from Forum "members" who were not Forum members. Somehow the legit members had their email hacked.
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b0b


From:
Northern California
Post Posted 4 May 2015 11:09 am     Reply with quote

If they send the email through the Forum, it will say so at the bottom of the email. Otherwise, they may not be a member.
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Ake Banksell


From:
Sweden
Post Posted 5 Sep 2016 1:43 am     Reply with quote

Hej! I'm very new to this forum and I must express my bad feelings reading about these scammers out there. Not seldom forums usually are asking for you to make a presentation in the beginning so you are standing on higher ground for a moment for anybody to figure you out. I guess that's meaningless if your account gets hacked by Nigerians. I get propositions by emails from them every now and then. But more then, than now these days.
Anyway. Thanks for membership.
yours
Ake Banksell
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