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Topic: How difficult to set up MSA |
Douglas Krause
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2016 3:08 pm |
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I'm thinking about buying a S12 MSA Classic. I have experience with setting up all pull guitars, Sho-Bud in particular, but never worked on a MSA. How difficult are they to change the copedent and adjust, etc. Thanks.
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Rickenbacher B6, Gibson and Supro Laps
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 16 Aug 2016 4:44 pm
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| In my experience relatively easy. They adjust similar to other all pull guitars. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2016 6:11 pm
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Easy, if you can turn an Allen wrench.. They are very "adjustable" when it come to knee lever placement, angle etc... It is one of the best, most robust and dependable mechanisms ever designed for a pedal steel guitar... bob
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 Aug 2016 8:09 pm
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What Bob said. The only time there's a pain is when you want to add another pull on a cross-shaft, but if you don't need to do that, it's a piece of cake.
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2016 5:00 am
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For a round shaft guitar it is one of the easiest. MSA allows you to pull/remove a single shaft with out disturbing the others.
A lot of round shaft guitars require you to remove the complete back apron to remove a single shaft...a real pain-in-the-b--. Especially when you have to re-aline all the other shafts when re-installing the back apron. |
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Charley Bond
From:
Inola, OK, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2016 10:23 am adjusting MSAs
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Do yourself a favor.
Document, document, document. Take pictures. Take pictures of the return springs, the end of the Guitar at the changer & document the location of the pulls on the cross rods.
Document, document, document.
Make you a changing layout & then you have a plan. watch out for changes that keep you from going back or forward.
Good Luck. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 17 Aug 2016 12:44 pm
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Easy, it's a well designed ALL PULL system, very easy to navigate.
If you are not certain of how it all works, bell crank positions, changer positions, make a rod chart before you begin.
Remember, all "ALL PULL" systems work on the exact same principle, thin strings take a shorter pull to get to the note while thicker strings require a longer pull length to get to the note. The holes in the changer and bell crank allow you to balance and time the pulls.
I've had 3 older MSA's, a breeze to work on, very rugged.
go for it !
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Dave O'Brien
From:
Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 17 Aug 2016 1:16 pm Msa Repair
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If you dont want to do or if the changer needs work on it I have worked on them for 40 years and have some parts.
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Dave O'Brien
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Douglas Krause
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2016 3:57 pm
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Thanks for the replies, suggestions, and advice. I'm still unsure if I'll go for the guitar, but I won't be afraid to because of the mechanism.
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Sho Bud 6139, Sho Bud LDG, Sho Bud Professional
Rickenbacher B6, Gibson and Supro Laps
Liberty Dobro |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2016 8:39 pm How difficult to set up a MSA
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| The old MSA's are easy to add to if needed. On the back apron. (Facing you, Sitting at the steel.) There is 3 sets of screws holding a plate. If your remove these screws and remove the plate. You are looking at the plastic bushings and the ends of the cross rods. You can remove just one cross rod and add bell cranks very easy. Good Luck and Happy Steelin. |
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manny escobar
From:
portsmouth,r.i. usa
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Posted 20 Aug 2016 5:52 am Two Piece Bell Cranks
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| I have a 12 string MSA and two other home built guitars with similar mechanisms. A long time ago I made 2-screw T-shaped bell cranks as apposed to single L-shaped ones. They can be installed on and off the cross shaft with no disassembly. |
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