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Topic: Backrest on pac-a-seat or not? |
Bob Blair
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 8:36 am |
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For sure Roger, and I hate the idea of drooling on a new set of strings! Happily this is a radio-stye play starring a very riveting performer named Andrea House, and we are only going into day three now so I won't be going to sleep any time soon! But seriously, having some lower back support would be a really good idea.
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 8:57 am
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What show, Bob? 'A Closer Walk With PC', perhaps?
Seats: I have a fibre-board case that contains my Steelers' Choice seat and, if I need to ship gear for a show, I can use the case and at the same time include all the cords, pedals, etc that I may need. Fedex do not require the case to be boxed and I simply put some tape around it in case the straps should get snagged undone in transit.
So - a big nod of approval for these great cases that are now being made by Steve Hinson. 'Brand X', I believe they're now called.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:00 am
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I also ship my Zum Encore by the same method.
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:19 am
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| backrest not necessary. |
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:23 am
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No Roger, it is an original production called "Song of the Martingale", done like an old-style radio play. Right now we are finishing a three-day run in a fantastic little (250 seats I think) theatre as part of Fort Edmonton Park's Valentines weekend, and then in August will do it as a Fringe Theatre Production in Edmonton's Fringe Festival. Last year we did a show called "Valentine's Train" that was also a radio-play format in the same venue and then as a Fringe production. A lot of fun, but hard work for sure.
https://www.fortedmontonpark.ca/events/song-of-the-martingale-valentines-show/ |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:39 am
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Interesting, Bob. Are you playing steel or guitar?
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Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:41 am
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:55 am
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Tony, you are not the odd man out. Or, maybe I am too. I've had 2 of the most popular seats with backs. Besides the issues you list, the back annoys me. I guess I sit farther back than some. If feels like it's not deep enough front to back even though I'm a fairly small guy.
I've tried them twice but sold them and always gone back to my old backless seat that I bought from the Jackson Guitar Co. around '80, '81. I've had to spruce it up a few times, but it's much more comfortable for me.
Like everything else, to each his own. It's good to have choices. |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 10:01 am
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You're right, Jerry! I'm especially reminded of this when I see that old photo of Buddy slumped down in that fold-up chair.
For as much as his wrists had to be bent at an angle it didn't hurt his playing much, did it?
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 6:51 pm Back rest on a pac-a-seat or not
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| A lot depends of the time you will be playing. A seat with a back is great for long sessions like house band job. I have a seat with no back and one with a back. I caught myself not practicing long sessions because my back would hurt without a back. The back is much more comfortable, Not to have my back against all the time but just lean back to relieve tension on my back, Between songs. If the back uses boat seat hinges it widens the foot print of the seat about 5 inches when loading it with other equipment. Originally I had a problem,The back was about 4 1/2 thick, Made the seat short front to back. I took the back apart and trimmed the foam to about 1 1/2 and it made it great. |
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Bill L. Wilson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 9:57 pm The Seat.
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| I put a back on my old Sho-Bud seat, made out of a hinged knee brace, I had to wear after being injured in a truck crash. The back is adjusted to where it sets in the small of my back, and I lean back against it all the time. With the screws and bars inserted in my back, it's a back saver for me. I don't have any idea what that brace cost, but I do know hospitals charge a ton of money for anything that goes out the door. And I could be setting on the most expensive Pac-A-Seat in the country. |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 14 Feb 2016 10:07 pm
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| Have one with a backrest,one without.Since most of what work I do is set up-play-take down,it's easier to grab-and-go with the smaller one.But the backrest is more comfortable and if a multi-night gig happens the backrest goes off to work. |
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Joe Naylor
From:
Avondale, Arizona, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2016 11:01 am steelseats.com
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Just my side of what I build - about one in 100 have no back rest.
I joke with customers and ask if they are over 30 they will want a back rest.
I have had a few that buy a seat and call back for a second seat and remember that. They say, "I am over 30 now and want a back rest on this one."
the other side of it I have had players that say they have played for 30+ years and never had a back rest. Then they order one and every time call back and say ---- Sure glad you talked me into a back rest and ask why I did not tell them that 30 years ago.
Just my observations from building seats.
Joe Naylor
www.steelseat.com
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 15 Feb 2016 4:50 pm
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I use a drum throne. Never liked pac-a-seats.
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2016 11:35 am
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I just sent Joe Naylor money for a seat with a backrest...I've never had one with a backrest,Maybe I should get a crash helmet just in case I fall back? 
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Jim Pitman
From:
Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2016 1:08 pm
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| I find I use my backrest only when sipping Burbon between songs....it has a purpose. |
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2016 1:55 pm
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When I do an outdoor gig on a stage with only a back rail behind me, the back rest makes me feel more at ease, even though it probably wouldn't make a difference if I fell backward off stage, although it might cushion the fall. I'm 65 and need a bit of help with bone padding
 EDIT - also when folded up the backrest sort of protects the seat cushion - at least on my Walker.
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 18 Feb 2016 3:53 pm
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YES !! backrests all the way
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2016 7:09 pm
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I just put a sissy bar on mine. I call it "Easy Slider"
RP
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 20 Feb 2016 9:53 am
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I added this to my old Sho-Bud Pak-a-seat some years ago. After back surgery three years ago, I needed the back rest full-time. Unlike most steel seats, the back rest is adjustable to any angle desired via the strap and buckle. It's just a standard friction buckle as seen on all sorts of luggage and camping equipment. The strap and buckles are available at most REI stores. I can pull down on the strap to move the back forward, or pull the buckle to loosen. Works great. I adjust pretty much constantly as I play, often during a song. My back is always supported and can move to change the angle. The seat is a folding stadium seat. I had to make a new top for the seat to attach the back and I use a pneumatic cushion for the seat. When transporting the seat, the back folds down and secured via the same strap attached to another underneath the seat.
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 20 Feb 2016 9:57 am
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| By the way, this seat has outlasted about four guitars and I don't know how many amps. Sho-Bud seats were built to last. Pretty, ain't it. ;~) |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 20 Feb 2016 10:00 am
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| Sho-Bud seats were built to last. Pretty, ain't it. ;~) |
Looks "factory" to me.
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 20 Feb 2016 10:37 am
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| Thanks, Herb. I'm leaving it to you in my will. |
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