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Marty Broussard
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 12:07 pm |
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Thank you Larry!!
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John McClung
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 2:55 pm
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Can someone go into detail on how the Excel Superb changer works, or point me to a thread or other reference source?
Also, how does one SOUND? I want big bold tone like a ZumSteel, will an Excel get me there?
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John McClung
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 3:07 pm
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Are there other U.S. Dealers besides Scotty's Music in St. Louis? Are they still a dealer, or has that changed with Scotty's passing?
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John McClung
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 3:07 pm
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Can someone go into detail on how the Excel Superb changer works, or point me to a thread or other reference source?
Also, how does one SOUND? I want big bold tone like a ZumSteel, will an Excel get me there?
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Larry Allen
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 4:38 pm Excel
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John they sound as good as the any other top line steel..long sustain and tone..guitar is solid and in tune...go to the links and click on Fuzzy then on English...lots of cool pics and info..Larry 
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Larry Baker
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 4:47 pm
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John, check with Bill Stafford in Gulfport, Miss. Don't know if He is a dealer, but I know He is very close to Mitsuo. Bill is a Forum member and a super guy. Good luck
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Mark Hershey
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New York, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2015 8:07 pm
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I just did a Google search for 'Bill Stafford' & 'Excel Pedal Steel' and it returned all sorts of links to FB videos of him playing an Excel.
One is of a 14 string and the other I just watched is of a 12. I think I have a good sense of what they sound like now. |
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Ross Shafer
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Petaluma, California
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 7:43 am
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[quote="John McClung"]Can someone go into detail on how the Excel Superb changer works, or point me to a thread or other reference source?
hi John,
Richard Burton posted some diagrams (I believe they were done by Winnie Winston) showing how the Anapeg changer works on the last page of this thread: http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=102313&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
While executed differently the basic function is the same as the Excel. The early Rickenbacker steels and the rare Fender PS210 had changers that used this basic function as well. All are a departure from the most common all pull designs.
NOTE: the splits on an Excel are achieved differently than on the Anapeg |
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bob drawbaugh
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 8:33 am
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Marty, this is the one you want. when you order one, order one for me. 
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Billy McCombs
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Bakersfield California, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 9:23 am
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John check out Mark Chesnutt Live on YouTube His Steel Player plays a EXCEL. Sounds GREAT.
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 12:26 pm
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Bob that color is remarkable. Please post more pics of it!!
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bob drawbaugh
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 2:35 pm
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| Bob that color is remarkable. Please post more pics of it!! |
I found this one on the Excel web site. I really like how compact the keyless tuner is. I would like to set behind one for a few minutes just to try it on. |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2015 5:41 pm
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Do these Crossover models function 100%? Or do they have the trade off of having a more versatile copedent/tuning while losing stability in tuning and playability? Do they play well? I am thinking that if They are top notch, as they appear to be, and have the ability to be both Full E9 and C6th on a single neck then they are the guitars to have! I am super interested in trying out an Excel crossover.
Does anybody know of one Near me that I may be able to try out? Thank you all.
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Mike Vallandigham
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Martinez, CA
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Posted 16 Nov 2015 6:04 am
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No, there's no drawback. It's such a simple mechanism.
The only thing I'd say, is that you loose a LITTLE bit of feel on the Right knee levers, due to the the hardware attached to them )to effect the knee lever function change)
But the stop is still solid, and all that.
The main thing that allows it (besides the obvious need to re-tune) is all the raise and lower hole options on the fingers. |
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Les Wright
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Norfolk,England
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Posted 16 Nov 2015 7:59 am
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In This post Carl Dixon included photographs of the changer components with an explanation of the funtionallity http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=154891
My Uni12 is like this but is slightly later and the string tuners are now metal hex nuts instead of the knurled finger tuning wheels. |
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Steve Benzian
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Burlingame, CA USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2015 8:42 pm Excel S-10 Superb
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weight is 37 lbs in the case....long scale...no string breakage and excellent tone....very advanced changer that pulls string in line rather than rotating finger on the axle, tuner tool is located right on the top...the same tool is used to tune the string at the key head and the nylons which have a small hex shaped center hole that accepts the tool. Amazing guitar.
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 12:58 pm
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A beautiful guitar for sure.
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Michael Johnstone
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Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 6:56 pm
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| Yep this one right above is the same era as my guitar and the tuning mechanism which Mitsuo seems to redesign every 4 or 5 years,is just like this one. The strings attach to vertical sleds which travel up and down with a worm drive. This particular design works real well and the vertical aspect makes for a very short tuning head. I once saw a Lamar keyless steel with a tuning head almost exactly like this. One interesting and very unique feature going on with the Excel Superb fingers and cams is that the holes in the fingers that the 3/8" axle goes thru are not round - the holes are elliptical in shape. What this means is the the raising and lowering motion is a subtle combination of rotation and fore/aft horizontal sliding motion - similar but not exactly like an Anapeg changer. There is a little - but much less - cam rotation and therefore bending and metal fatigue of the string as in most other changers where you're virtually bending the string back and forth when you raise and lower it - till it breaks. This lateral string pulling action is much easier on the string and is probably the main design element that keeps the guitar from ever breaking any strings. Quite an accomplishment with a 25.5" scale and something my 25" Sierra keyless Session U12 could not deliver. 3rd strings (.011 G#) lasted about twice as long on my Sierra as they did on 24" keyed steels in the 70s-90s but the Excel changer actually breaks literally zero strings ever. None. And what a joy that is...... |
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Mark Hershey
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New York, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2015 10:04 am
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Considering buying an S-10 similar to this steel in the upcoming year:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=201444&sid=a09c512cfc3dc260ec38a9e6fa86455a
I believe this is not a 'Superb' model. Any thoughts or concerns from the other Excel owners about a non Superb model like this? Wondering if the Superb is one of those situations where 'for a few hundred more' you have all sorts of added features you just can't pass up.
Also, just out of curiosity what amps are you pairing up with your Excels? |
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bob drawbaugh
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scottsboro, al. usa
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Posted 21 Nov 2015 6:04 am
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| So now that I'm in love with the Red Guitar I posted. The question is, how would you order a new one now that Scotty has passed? I think he was the only dealer in the States. |
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Larry Allen
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Posted 21 Nov 2015 9:55 am Excel
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Bob go to the Fuzzy site..there is the contact info...I have been ordering direct from Mitsuo for the last few years as Scottys came to an end...I just ordered a new S10 from Mitsuo, 1 month build time..he usually answers emails in a day..Tokyo is 19 hours ahead of us in Hawaii, so I get his emails around 4pm here...FYI the price of a new S10 Starts at $2850.00, 3/4...Extra pedals are $120 each, shipping it to the USA is $210-1 week, $150- 2 weeks....great guy to do business with..Larry
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bob drawbaugh
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Posted 21 Nov 2015 7:16 pm
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| Larry, thanks for the information. I'll send an emal and see what I can find out. |
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Kenneth Caine
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2015 8:41 am
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Here is mine along with my Dynalap lap steel.
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Larry Lenhart
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Ponca City, Oklahoma
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Posted 29 Nov 2018 2:55 pm
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I dug up this old thread and wanted to show mine that I purchased this summer...not sure when it was built, but I really love the sound of this guitar with my Quilter MicroPro mach2 amp thru a 12 inch speaker cabinet:
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Larry Lenhart
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Ponca City, Oklahoma
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Posted 27 Nov 2023 12:29 pm
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This is an old thread, and i see that I contributed to it. Just wanted to bring it up again to see if there are other Excel owners who havent posted to it. i am still looking and hoping that one will come up similar to the one I had that i foolishly sold about 2 years ago. I am tempted to order a new one but with the cost, the shipping, the import duties (or whatever you call it), I think it is way out of my league for a novice player.
I have owned a lot of steels over the years, and I still think this was my favorite one !!
Thanks to all who posted pics and anyone who adds more, please !
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