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Topic: Screaming Blues solo |
Stefan Robertson
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Tom Margulies
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Posted 15 Sep 2015 4:49 pm |
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| VERY cool. Thanks for sharing |
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 15 Sep 2015 7:00 pm
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Thanks appreciated. Hope it inspires and connects with someone. Based on the feedback I'm wondering if this was the right forum to post it.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
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Brad Bechtel
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 6:26 am
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I'm not sure what sort of feedback you're looking for, Stefan.
It certainly is a screaming distorted sound. I find personally that type of tone gets really old after a while. I did want the solo to go somewhere, but I didn't hear it get there - it faded out just as I was getting interested.
It would be interesting to try to play this same song again without the Boss distortion box, just to see what you'd get.
Thanks for sharing!
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 12:31 pm
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Any constructive feedback is welcomed. I'm always willing to try harder and do better. Plus I am much better now than I was then. That was just when I felt comfortable with the minor penatatonic scale.
So I can see how the variation is less.
The flurry and increase in speed towers the end is intentional as opposed to the beginning.
Some described that style as a "blues train" pulling out the station.
I also remember John Mayer saying if you start high you have no where to go and the audience either gets bored or loses interest so be careful.
But as far as variation I didn't even use the ionian scale back then. Strictly minor penatatonic.
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Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
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Steve Atwood
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Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2015 4:14 pm
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| Like! |
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Peter Jacobs
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Northern Virginia
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 17 Sep 2015 10:26 pm
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Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Stephen Abruzzo
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Posted 18 Sep 2015 7:20 am
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Good, bare-bones feeling to it.
Is this your lo-to-hi...E-G-B-D-F-A tuning? If so, what gauges are you using? |
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Tony Palmer
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Posted 20 Sep 2015 5:44 pm
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Are you kidding I loved it!
Especially love the faster picking towards the end.
More please!!
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 20 Sep 2015 9:50 pm
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| Stephen Abruzzo wrote: |
Good, bare-bones feeling to it.
Is this your lo-to-hi...E-G-B-D-F-A tuning? If so, what gauges are you using? |
Yeah but you need at least 8 strings cause you miss out so much with just 6. You can do most chords except Maj11/13 and 6. So I'd say no point until you increase your string numbers.
I use 12 string for more possibilities. It's the same as 8 for the most part just a few extra extensions and ripping solo leads. But speed can also be learnt on the 8 stringer.
String gauges are found from John Ely site for a ball park guide.
http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
I think I used regular guitar gauges when I first started.
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Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
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"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 20 Sep 2015 9:56 pm
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| Tony Palmer wrote: |
Are you kidding I loved it!
Especially love the faster picking towards the end.
More please!! |
Appreciated. Thanks for the kind words. Always love words of encouragement.
On a separate note.
As I stated earlier I didn't want to start off really fast. I wanted to take the listener on a ride with variable speed to communicate more effectively.
Music is a language for communicating. I couldn't do it effectively at one speed. It's like a conversation that the speaker is talking really fast from start to finish.
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Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
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"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Steve Cunningham
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Sep 2015 9:35 pm
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| even though you need 12 strings, i wouldn't discourage others to learn what they can on a six string. good players can do great things with six. |
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 27 Sep 2015 10:30 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| even though you need 12 strings, i wouldn't discourage others to learn what they can on a six string. good players can do great things with six. |
True you can get some of it on a six. But chordal options are much more limited.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 27 Sep 2015 10:34 pm
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Wow, that's a filthy tone...I really like it! Sounds like James Blood Ulmer trying to play like Robert Randolph.
Is that the Ric in your avatar? |
Tone is actually just a boss DS-1. Nirvana made that popular.
Robert Randolph hmmm... I wasn't really going for that as everything was minor pentatonic. I actually intentionally avoided the sacred steel major to minor sound. And kept it blues minor.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 27 Sep 2015 10:35 pm
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Thanks you enjoyed and also for feedback.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Tony Palmer
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St Augustine,FL
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 5:48 am
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One of the problems I'm having....to my ears only....is I can get the exact sound I want from an overdrive pedal (I've tried MANY) for single string notes but as soon as I go to two or more while playing a lead solo the sound deteriorates into lots of mid range noise.
In other words I can get that long sustaining blues/rock sound on one string at a time but I lose that string separation tone when I hit two strings.
I haven't tried a tube amp yet and wondering if that would sound different in this regard?
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Brad Bechtel
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 6:20 am
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| I haven't tried a tube amp yet and wondering if that would sound different in this regard? |
Depending on the amp, yes, it would sound different.
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 10:11 am
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Sounds like you need to adjust your tone and drive knobs. Also adjust the tone on your Lap Steel Guitar pickup.
Play a chord like a major 9. Then adjust tone until It is the sound you desire that has clean enough quality to differentiate voicings.
All this advice still will change depending on the live audio engineer at a gig. So find a happy medium and just go for it.
Another tip is Overdrive usually sounds like crap on Lap Steel Guitar try older distortion styles that keep the tonal characteristics of the strings and instrument. Otherwise it bleeds all over and just sounds like a stepped down mid range fuzz.
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Peter Jacobs
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 10:16 am
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| Stefan Robertson wrote: |
| Another tip is Overdrive usually sounds like crap on Lap Steel Guitar try older distortion styles that keep the tonal characteristics of the strings and instrument. Otherwise it bleeds all over and just sounds like a stepped down mid range fuzz. |
Hmm - I haven;t found that at all, Stefan. I prefer overdrive (amp drive is best, but pedals work) so I can get a broken up but not totally distorted sound. A transparent overdrive (I use a Timmy pedal) is great for an always on pedal, then I hit it with either a clean boost or another OD (I use an MI Audio Blue Boy Deluxe) set to low gain.Something like a Rat or an OD-1 would be way too fizzy for me. I guess this is why we each have our own pair of ears.
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Stefan Robertson
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 10:28 am
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True. To each their own.
I just like the colour one can get from amp style distortion as opposed to overdrive/fuzz.
I avoid them like the plague. I like the tone of Hendrix recordings as opposed to live. With chorus, flange & even reverb. In fact any effects as long as I can hear some tone in it. I have found like on the pedals I tried and amps. Anytime I found overdrive as an option it always sounds like it's spillage from one note to another. Couldn't tell the difference between a Chinese guitar and a tele. 
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Tony Palmer
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 11:13 am
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Spillage! That's the word I was looking for....that's what I'm trying to avoid. Want each string overdriven and sustained but not all garbled when played together.
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Stephen Abruzzo
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Posted 28 Sep 2015 4:03 pm
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| Tony Palmer wrote: |
| Spillage! That's the word I was looking for....that's what I'm trying to avoid. Want each string overdriven and sustained but not all garbled when played together. |
Could be a function of your gear. What is the first thing coming out of your guitar/steel? If you don't have a Lil Izzy or Black Box, that may help significantly with string separation per many of satisfied members on the Forum. |
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