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Topic: Why the hate for Nashville 112s? |
John Dowden
From: Louisiana, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2015 9:39 pm
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Am I the only person that caught Mike Brown's post? What is this RR he's speaking of that's going to "fill the bill" with much more power? |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 28 Aug 2015 10:03 pm
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It was announced some time ago. It's essentially grandson of Nashville 1000, but with some added effects. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Aug 2015 10:36 pm
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Well,,,, I praise Peavey for making steel amps that a lot of guys love. But I hate solid state amps! Can't stand the sound. I was cursed with a Vegas for years. Really happy when I dumped it and got back to a Twin. Flame away! _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Nathan Guilford
From: Oklahoma City
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 4:39 am power
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I replaced the reverb tank with the 3-spring, and lucked into buying a weber neo 12". Sounds awesome. Has a really sweet midrange. This is the amp that I use for recording. But onstage, I can't get that sound because I've gotta turn up the pre gain so much to be heard. That's ok. I just know that for gigs, I've got my Carvin BX500 into an old cab with a telonics speaker. Plenty...plenty of power there, (but I have to use digital reverb) _________________ '02 Carter S-12 uni
‘76 MSA D-12
www.toothbrushers.com |
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George Kimery
From: Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 4:39 am why all the hate for the Nashvile 112
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I thought the 112 was designed to be a practice amp. If that is the case, then Peavey is not at fault for it only having 85 watts
I have owned two of them. I put the Fox mod and the Mod reverb in one of them. Both helped the sound to my ears. I put a Telonics speaker in one but it didn't set right with me, so I went back to the Blue Marvel.
I was using my Black Box and Wet Reverb. This combination gave me a really good sound. The only issue with me was lack of volume and headroom when playing with a band. That was my problem for trying to get the amp to deliver something that it was not designed to do. When any new player ask me about which amp to get, I tell them that I recommend a 112. |
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gary pierce
From: Rossville TN
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 5:31 am
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I've owned two 112's and tried my best to get a tone I liked, but could not. Maybe if they had a tube preamp, and little more power it would help. |
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Joseph Napolitano
From: New Jersey, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 6:10 am
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I like my 112, I just don't love it. I love my tube amps ( Fender silverfaces, Marshall, Ampeg, etc.). I use the 112 everyday for practicing , which is what I guess it was designed for, in order to save wear and tear on the tube amps . Tubes are more forgiving, and I'm not good enough yet to get a great sound out of a SS amp for pedal steel. I'll just keep practicing and hopefully I'll get there someday |
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Mike Archer
From: church hill tn
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 6:14 am wow
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wow some of you guys must play in loud bands
ive never had lack of headroom with the 112
mine has the stock speaker which to me fits the amp
sound just fine it does have factory replaced
chips that had been done when I got it and whatever value chips they used give it a nice tone all around I tell you peavey repair service is
one of the best... _________________ Mullen sd10
Nashville 400 amp
Tele/ fender deluxe |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 8:09 am Re: why all the hate for the Nashvile 112
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George Kimery wrote: |
The only issue with me was lack of volume and headroom when playing with a band. That was my problem for trying to get the amp to deliver something that it was not designed to do. |
ha ha...i guess that about sums it up!
if it honks, it's a horn! |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 8:30 am Re: why all the hate for the Nashvile 112
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chris ivey wrote: |
if it honks, it's a horn! |
Or a goose! |
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Tom Gorr
From: Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 8:34 am
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Interesting is that I prefer a 15 inch speaker for practice and a 12 inch for band context. As a solo instrument. .. things sound better with a wide footprint and in a band more focussed tones seem to help the mix. ...so......fwiw.
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Richard Tipple
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 9:20 am
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I purchased a new NV112 new years ago . It seemed I was constantly fiddling with the Mids trying to find a sweet spot. I was spending more time adjusting the Mids over time than playing LOL. I added the latest Mods & speakers to no avail.
The little amp sounded decent but there was always a ,honk, I couldn't get around.
Then the reverb pan took a dump on it. I replaced the pan but no difference.
I tried running to the board from the XLR out on the back but it was way to noisy.
I finally just came to grips that the little amp is a SS with a 12" speaker and could only be expected to do so much.
As far as weight the little amp is great and as for tone, well the honk is still there _________________ steelguitarguy.com |
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Jerry Roller
From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 9:48 am
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About 3 years ago at the OzSGA steel show in Branson, Mo. I heard this guy playing thru 2 Nashville 112's and so help me he sounded just like Paul Franklin.............oh! it was Paul Franklin! _________________ http://www.littleoprey.org/ |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 10:53 am
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I found the first NV112 I bought (7 years ago) to have a subpar pre and eq stage: high x-over distortion, low S/N, and filtered out lows. All in all a pretty irritating sound-reproduction.
My second NV112 has the better pre/eq chips and sounds better, but still no lows because of the high-pass filter on the eq input.
The power stage (in both) performs quite acceptable though, no low filtering, enough power and dynamic range for all settings I have played in, and it has a high-Z input. So, since I have no need for eq'ing or built-in pre stages for any of my PSGs ... tone is in the hands ... I only use the power stages in my two NV112s and find them to perform quite well also in the low range. Could do with a better speaker, but the original isn't bad in that open back cabinet. |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 11:14 am
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Every show I've attended where a NV112 was being used, the player, all players, had a rack of effects, eq, etc, hooked up to said amp. I couldn't help but wonder why all the external units were needed to get a decent sound was beyond me. Maybe my electronic aptitude is sub par, oh well... _________________ Assorted gear and a set of hands...
https://www.facebook.com/garythelee
https://www.youtube.com/user/ZumEmm |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 12:06 pm
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Here are my settings for my '71 Emmons D-10. Sounds terrific:
Low: 9
Mid: -3
Shift: 750
Hi: -3
Presence: 0
Reverb: 4-5
Master: 10
I found these settings eliminated that cardboard sound from the amp that I got from a lower master and turned-up pre-amp. _________________ I need an Emmons! |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 12:26 pm
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Seems to me that most players like the 112. It's almost the defacto standard steel amp these days. The people who don't like it either 1) play in loud bands or 2) can't dial in their preferred tone.
Parametric EQ (the "shift" knob") baffles us folks who grew up on tube amps. I'm always uncomfortable with it. I do like the way that the 112 compresses instead of distorting when you hit its max volume. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Quentin Hickey
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 3:29 pm
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I played an outdoor gig today with my nashville 112 and got alot of love about my tone and it had plenty of headroom. I ran my power amp at full and pre at about 5 to 6 oclock. Its stock untouched with the blue marvel. If you are playing with a couple of overdiven guitars than yes I can see this smp lacking the clean headroom you would need. I am going to be working with a band like this (modern country) and will likely be leaving the 112 home and bring something more powerful. I dont hear of too many people hating 112s. Honestly its a great little amp end of discussion. Alot of people including top pro's use and love the nashville 112. If you gotan amp that has tone that bad than maybe someone got into it with a golden screwdriver. Love my 112 |
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Lee Warren
From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 8:05 pm
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I dropped by the Nashville Palace tonight, and had the pleasure of hearing Pete Finney playing through what looked like a Nashville 112.
His tone was great, and there was no problem hearing him. |
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Andy Eder
From: North Florida, USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 8:35 pm
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I have an N112 with Fox chips, Telonics 12", and 3 springs and I love it just fine. I've never played through one without the mods.
Can't you guys just play? |
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Bobby Boggs
From: Upstate SC.
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 30 Aug 2015 5:05 am
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b0b wrote: |
Parametric EQ (the "shift" knob") baffles us folks who grew up on tube amps. |
Not all of us, b0b. Some of us "old timers" came to realize that the shift control adds a lot to the voicing of a solid-state amp. |
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Loren Morehouse
From: Meadowlands, MN USA
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Posted 30 Aug 2015 6:04 pm
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Hey Mike I agree with you. Everyone must be deaf. When I was playing out, I was using the low gain input and the master was around 5 and the pre around 3. I wore ear plugs all the time! Lots of power! Couldn't hear me, run me hotter in the PA. I still think a huge difference is made just by changing out the chips. I Did the speaker change but really don't think that's neccessary, I don't like spring reverb except in my Webb so I use my Boss RV-5 but I run it in the pre eq patch, to me sounds much better!! I used to run my volume pedal into that but I think it's better just to go direct to the input. Especially if you have a Dunlop pot in your volume pedal. I'm still a 112 fan! It's always done and performed well for me, but the chip mod does make a significant difference! My two cents, Loren. |
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Mike Archer
From: church hill tn
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Posted 30 Aug 2015 9:20 pm 112
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well I guess its a case of different stokes
for different folks Loren you and I must hear
the amp alike.....my setting on the shift knob
is about 800 mids at 9.00 oclock lows at
about 2 oclock treble at 12.30 presence
master at 2.00 oclock gain at 9.00 oclock
12.00 noon reverb at 9.00 oclock and I use an rv-3 which with the low amp reverb is nice
when I use my session its about the same settings your milage may vari............. _________________ Mullen sd10
Nashville 400 amp
Tele/ fender deluxe |
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George Redmon
From: Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 31 Aug 2015 3:51 pm
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I think I just expected too much out of this little amp. I to was always twisting one knob after another. The reverb was not at all to my liking, hollow is how I would describe it. I did the Fox Mod thing. Helped a whole lot. I didn't like the speaker either. But if I have to rebuild an amp to use it, why keep it. I don't like any stamped frame speaker for a clean sound. Guitar, that's another story. It sounded nasal to me. I thought for sure this little amp would be a Session 400 Jr. sadly it wasn't. Then after it sat for years, I couldn't give it away. Finally moved it for $300 and I paid the shipping. Low resale on it. I don't hate it, just not what I expected. Paul, & Tommy would sound excellent in whatever they play through. I don't buy a product because someone uses it. I'm very interested in trying Peavey's new steel amp offering.
Nathan Guilford, I think you just missed my Weber Neo here on the forum. It sold on the forum in 30 minutes. I sure wish I would have kept that little speaker. It may have also helped the little Nashville 112. JBL, Weber Neo, and Peavey 1501-4SB, are the steel guitar speaker standards. I sadly do not like an Eminence product. I have 2 Weber Neo 12's in use today in steel cabs. As well as 2 Weber 15" Neo's in my Milkman Half & Half stack. One word.... Smoooooth. You can't get these anymore.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=269026&highlight=weber |
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