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Jay Hallstrom

 

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Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 9:59 am    
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I'm in Seattle, and need to learn how to set up and adjust my Ritt 5+4 for gigs. I'm willing to pay for someone's time (I've PM'd Lynn Stafford, but not sure it got thru via forum. Anyone have his number?)
Or, are there materials I can buy? I've got tools and aptitude to do it, just need mentoring.
Thanks!
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 10:16 am    
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These things ain't that hard.
What's it doing that you're not happy with?
BTW, Mickey Adams is working on a video, but it's not ready yet.
If you share what you're trying to do or how it's going wrong, folks here will be happy to help.
I'll be happy to help via phone, too during the day
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 10:34 am    
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it's so easy a truck driver can do it! Very Happy
jay...lane is a very able and willing helpful guy here on the forum. he can probably explain things for you.

edited to add a smiley face
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 11:40 am    
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My work schedule has changed, but my number has not. With you being on Pacific time, I'm free from about 5 AM to 5 or 6 PM Tues through Saturday (or most of the day Monday)
8162060239 is my number. Got nothing better to do as I motor (don't worry, I'm hands-free)
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Jay Hallstrom

 

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Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 12:24 pm    
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Thanks so much! I'll get my questions in order to be a good steward of your time.
Gratefully,
-Jay
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Jay Hallstrom

 

From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:10 pm    
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I'm looking for a sequence to arrive at a balance point from which to make final adjustments, hoping for a smooth, low wear on the guitar kind of action.
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Jay Hallstrom

 

From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:14 pm    
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Something like:
Loosen Rod at bell crank
Back nylon tuner off all the way, reinstall to two revolutions
Retighten Rod at bell crank and move to best hole for pitch change/smooth action.
Adjust pedals

I'm just hoping for the knowledge to know which should come first, second, etc. to keep the guitar maintained on the road for minimum wear, best tuning range, etc.
Thanks!
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:19 pm    
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Except that that procedure varies by guitar, and also depending on which change.
Backing off the nylon nuts only necessary when it's "overtuned."
None of this is hard, it's just easy to get wrong. And frustrated when it is wrong.
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DG Whitley


Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:28 pm    
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How about simply this:

http://www.steelguitarscanada.com/online-store/products-page-2/al-brisco-dvd-instruction/al-brisco-care-feeding-of-your-pedal-steel-guitar-dvd/
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Jay Hallstrom

 

From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:44 pm    
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If anyone has this DVD and doesn't need it anymore, I'll buy it from you. Talked to the guy at SGC, he said that the DVD was generic and may not apply to the Ritt. hmmmm
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DG Whitley


Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:49 pm    
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No, it is not necessarily guitar specific, but there are basic things that are applicable to all guitars.

This DVD is a good starting point for the direction I felt you were trying to get to, but not the end all solution to everything. It may well help you to get your feet wet and feel more comfortable working on your own axe.

Just my 2 cents, YMMV.
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Jay Hallstrom

 

From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 3:53 pm    
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Thanks, DG!
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Donny Hinson

 

From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 28 Jul 2015 4:24 pm    
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Jay, I'll echo what Lane said..."What is it you're not happy with?" Once (and if) a guitar is set up properly, almost no "re-adjustment" is necessary, except for occasional fine tuning at the keys and the nylon tuners. As far as maintenance goes, a light application of oil or other lubricant every year or so is all that is required.
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Jay Hallstrom

 

From:
Kenmore, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2015 7:47 pm    
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I want to thank everyone who was kind enough to weigh in on my question. You all bolstered my confidence, and I just dug in one change at a time, starting by backing off the nylon tuning nuts to where I just had room to back off a turn and still be solid, then moved the rod to holes on the bell crank that got closest to the change needed, then just tweaked the nylon tuner to get me spot on. This newbie approach seemed to work. Obviously, doing this necessitates taking out slack in the rod to bell crank connection, but things seem to be much better now. Nylon tuning nuts were way over cranked, causing my initial problems when I originally posted. This is how I received the guitar. It's been a good learning experience. Thanks again everyone!
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