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Topic: Emmons PP Cool Factor |
Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Mark Shuda
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2015 8:36 am Cool is all in the head of the beholder, not the brand! |
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chas smith
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2015 7:15 pm
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When you find one that sounds better than this D-11 wraparound, Feb '65, I would love to hear it.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 2 Apr 2015 9:05 pm
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Chas' guitar is absolutely one of the "coolest of the cool" Emmonses there is, for these reasons:
1. First, it's a wraparound... the rarest and arguably the most sought-after vintages of PP, at least as far as $$ are concerned;
2. The Bobby Garrett provenance. Though there's no documentation, I'm buying the story, and I knew Bobby G.;
3. The 12-string peghead shows that as early as 1965 the Emmons Co. was considering a 12-string model. Interesting factoid for those of us who collect information about the early days of this brand;
4. It's a freaking double 11-string guitar! How many of those have you seen at your local Guitar Center?
5. Just a FWIW, the fact that an "Emmons Is Cool" thread prompted a Sho~Bud owner to show up and comment that his guitar was also cool is further evidence of latent Emmons-envy in Forumland 
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 2 Apr 2015 9:55 pm
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Yes, Herb, it is.
I've played that guitar, and if you think it's chilly just lookin' at it... |
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Mike DiAlesandro
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Kent, Ohio
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Posted 27 Apr 2016 5:57 pm
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A year later, and I have aquired this fine 1967 S-10, thanks to a fellow Forumite who I did some horse trading with. The worn decal kinda adds to the vintage vibe of this guitar, or at least I think so. 
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Ron Whitworth
From:
Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 27 Apr 2016 7:44 pm
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That is a beautiful guitar Mike.
Sometimes it does take a while to find one!
Ron
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"Tone is in the hands. Unless your wife will let you buy a new amp. Then it's definitely in that amp."
We need to turn the TWANG up a little
It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.
They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head
Some of the best pieces of life are the little pieces all added up..Ron
the value of friendship. Old friends shine like diamonds, you can always call them and - most important - you can't buy them. |
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Bill Moran
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2016 1:46 pm Re: Cool is all in the head of the beholder, not the brand!
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The ShoPro is a beautiful guitar. Not changing the subject from the PP thread, I would love to hear a ShoPro to see if I want one. Tommy didn't keep his long. Lloyd sold his. Mike never play's his . Someone out there surely can put up a clip. If it sounds like a ShoBud I'm in.
At this point in time I think the PP has the tone advantage over anything I have ever heard.
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Bill Moran
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2016 1:48 pm Re: Cool is all in the head of the beholder, not the brand!
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OOPS
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 8:56 am Don't tell me what you got, show me what you can do.
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Different people have different priorities. I'm not really impressed by gear, any of it. A guitar is just a tool, and it's always the player that I'm paying most of my attention to. I'd rather hear a really great player on just about anything than a so-so player on the best sounding axe ever built.
Guess that makes me weird.  |
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 9:23 am
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Always considered the PP to be the Harley Shovelhead of steels...a mechanical nightmare, but absolutely NOTHING sounds better. A LeGrande is like a Harley Twin Cam...still sounds great, not quite like the older ones,but much more reliable in the long run.
Here are my 2 great sounding machines!
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 9:36 am
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Rich, I don't agree with the mechanical nightmare part. Push pulls are very solid and stable, stay in tune and are easy to work on if you understand how they work. Now a ZB is the mechanicals nightmare, even if you know how they work, lol.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 10:17 am
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Once you take a few seconds to learn and understand how the PP works, it's by no means a mechanical nightmare, no different than anything else on the planet that requires some mechanical ability.
think of it this way, we have a forum full of friends who don't understand ALL PULL guitars either !
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Sven Kontio
From:
Sweden
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 1:18 pm
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Now tell me this ain´t pretty cool...!?
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Sven Kontio
From:
Sweden
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 1:35 pm
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This guitar is also cool..! The picker - not so much...
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 29 Apr 2016 2:13 pm
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| I've loved black Emmons guitars since 75. (Rosewood, not so much). I have three of 'em. That said, there is nothing cooler looking than a cherry condition ShoBud perm. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 12:37 am
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| Tony Glassman wrote: |
| I've loved black Emmons guitars since 75. (Rosewood, not so much). I have three of 'em. That said, there is nothing cooler looking than a cherry condition ShoBud perm. |
Thems fightin' words.... 
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Alan Simon
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 3:55 am
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| I'm kind of new to the pedal steel. I noticed that Jody Cameron, who I respect as a great player and love his music, is selling his trusty Emmons for a newer non-PP guitar. So, I think, as someone mentioned earlier, that it's not necessarily the guitar that makes the beautiful music but is the player playing it. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 7:02 am
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yes there is tons of truth to "the player makes the beautiful music", but there is also truth that a great Instrument "produces" great sounding music and inspires the player to expand and create as he or she plays, as a result of a fine instrument which has a fine natural sound.
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Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 10:26 am Kline Harley vibe
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Some of us think the Kline also has the Harley vibe.
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Duane Reese
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 1:43 pm
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I've owned three of them — two D-10s and a D-12 — and I like them. It's not the only thing I like, looks-wise or sound-wise, but it's one of my favorites.
I think a Harley is a good comparison — clunky in some ways, but the nuances and charm make up for it. There are much more efficient ways to pull a string than with that mechanism, but once you get into the push/pull headspace of operation, you get hooked (no pun intended).
One thing I do not like about them is the pedal feel — that is, until I put in the raise-assist mod, but that's because I'm spoiled. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 30 Apr 2016 2:32 pm
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you could probably dig up a similar thread from 10 yrs ago rather than just one if you wanted.
this steel looks exactly like the one i had in the early 70's, except even more worn.
mine had been 6+2 and i changed it to 4+4.
neato. |
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 4 May 2016 5:26 pm
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| I don't find there to be a cool factor to their looks or logo. |
Not inherently it seems, being machine art.
Things become iconic by their associations with cool.
Many people like Harley's for their tone.
I like Triumphs and MSA's. |
No Norton or Enfield??
I keep thinking of the Emmons logo as Cadillac, and I think of Sho Bud as Lincoln - no Chevy's or Fords.
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 4 May 2016 5:42 pm
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| I'm just a guy that likes plain look stuff. I don't like the guitars with the big Z on front, don't even like two tone guitars. I don't want any crosses, birds or any other designs on a guitar. No sparkle either please. I'm not real fond of wood guitars either but have owned a few. |
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| +1 That's exactly how I feel. Plain and simple is what I like... a plain Telecaster and an Emmons. I've been playing push/pulls for 45 years. |
Doug, you're just a snob! EDIT - You'd be a terrible customer at a tattoo shop, too!
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Doug Beaumier
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