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Harold Bullard
From: Harrisonville, MO 64701 USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2015 4:41 pm
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Has anyone used an Ernie Ball 4117 Power Peg Pro string winder? Was hoping to get a little feedback before ordering one. Thanks.
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Larry Hamilton
From: Keller, Texas, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2015 6:54 pm
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Buy it, it's money well spent and time saved if you still restring buy hand. A couple guys I know carry them to the gig just in case...... _________________ Keep pickin', Larry |
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Harold Bullard
From: Harrisonville, MO 64701 USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 6:34 am
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Thanks for the info. I've been using a little Black & Decker battery screwdriver that runs about 130 rpm. I can do that by hand. I was looking for one that turned a lot faster. The specs on the Ernie Ball said about 200 rpm. That's the fastest I've found and still be lightweight. Think I'll get it. |
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Larry Hamilton
From: Keller, Texas, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 10:13 am
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No matter what it beats cranking by hand. Great tool. _________________ Keep pickin', Larry |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 1:01 pm
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I prefer the hand crank that has the built in string stretcher.
I find the string stretcher to be invaluable in saving a lot of time tuning.
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Waves-Ergonomic-Guitar-Winder/dp/B0002GJ3E6 _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Chuck Stowe
From: Sycamore, Illinois, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 4:43 pm
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How does it stretch the string? I didn't see an explanation on the website. _________________ 1980 Emmons PP D10, Hilton Pedal, Peavey Session 500 & Nashville 112 |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 6:23 pm
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I just use a Black & Decker cordless drill/screwdriver. It is variable speed, and I get to use it around the house. I rarely break or need to change a string at a gig. But, it looks like a cool tool. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jim Smith
From: Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2015 10:09 pm
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Chuck Stowe wrote: |
How does it stretch the string? I didn't see an explanation on the website. |
One of the pictures on Amazon shows it being done. |
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Jason Lynch
From: Essex, United Kingdom
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Posted 14 Feb 2015 3:03 am
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my batteries seems to be constantly flat! |
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Dave Yustin
From: Vermont, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 11:22 am String winder
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You can buy the same thing by Black and Decker at Walmart for 20 bucks. It runs on AAs and works fine. I bought the separate peghead bit online. No rechargeable batteries to go flat and the AAs seem to last. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 11:46 am
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The stretcher is an arched groove in the side of the handle. First, tune the string to pitch. Then you put your string in the groove and run the stretcher from the roller nut to the changer. I press pedals and levers whilst doing it several times. Takes about 5 seconds per string. After that a final tune up, and no tuning woes. _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 11:54 am
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i've always found a normal manual string winder to be adequate. stretching can help settle your tuning as long as you don't cause uneven string thickness from it. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 11:59 am
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"stretching can help settle your tuning as long as you don't cause uneven string thickness from it."
That's why I quit grabbing the string in the middle and pulling it up to stretch it. I thought it probably wasn't good for the string. The stretch puts a very gentle bend on the string, and the bend is applied for virtually the whole string's length equally. I got my first string stretcher, a Fender, 30 years ago, a won't change strings without it. It's a great time saver. No frustrating tuning over and over and over as the string stretches out. _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 17 Feb 2015 1:04 pm
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I just tug on the string once I get it to pitch. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Ron Pruter
From: Arizona, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2015 5:38 pm
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I'm with Lane. Do it until it holds it's pitch. I also used to do this to my tele and it literally needed no brake in time. I actually do kind of a side twist instead of a tug. You may break a few .011's before you get the hang of it. RP _________________ Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2015 5:40 pm
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Yeah, but stretching the string in one spot by pulling it, works,,,, kind of. It puts a strain on the string in that one spot. Not ideal at all. _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Dan Robinson
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2015 7:45 pm
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John Billings wrote: |
"stretching can help settle your tuning as long as you don't cause uneven string thickness from it."
That's why I quit grabbing the string in the middle and pulling it up to stretch it. I thought it probably wasn't good for the string. The stretch puts a very gentle bend on the string, and the bend is applied for virtually the whole string's length equally. I got my first string stretcher, a Fender, 30 years ago, a won't change strings without it. It's a great time saver. No frustrating tuning over and over and over as the string stretches out. |
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Jim Pitman
From: Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2015 5:37 pm
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I'm a fan of the manual string winder. They will continue to work after the apocalypse. I'm working on a hand cranked amplifier.
Seriously, I do prefer them. Trouble is it's hard to find a good quality one that will last a few years. I made one eventually. It's been working great for the last 20 years. I've never had trouble with it.
Let's see battery powered hand drills have been around for 30 years and only recently did I buy one with a decent battery. I can't tell you how many times I've picked up a battery operated power tool and not been able to use it because the battery was dead or it died while drilling the first hole.
If I were to get an electric winder I'd want it to have a lithium battery like me new drill has. I charged it once a month ago and have been using it somewhat regularly ever since without recharging. |
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J R Rose
From: Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2015 6:30 pm
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I have always used the hand crank winder. Gary Carpenter gave me a custom built key head Bit to put in your cordless drill and that has work well but my drill has to much torque and you have to be very careful, to big also. Just received my Ernie Ball Power Winder this past week and seems to be very good. The right size and not to strong. Of course as someone said, right when you need it the batteries will be dead. So will keep the old trusty hand winder close by. Would like to see more on the string stretcher tool? Thanks, J.R. _________________ NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
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Clark Doughty
From: KANSAS
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Posted 23 Feb 2015 4:31 pm String winder
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Bought one of the Ernie Ball winders and used it about 3/4 times and it's dead. I don't dead battery dead, but DEAD. Not very good life......clark |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2015 4:41 pm
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Get the Planetwaves hand winder, with the string stretcher built into the handle. _________________ Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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