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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 14 Nov 2014 2:06 pm    
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Anybody know what tuning Jimmy used on this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pp-s_ZmCFk
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Mike Bagwell

 

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Post  Posted 14 Nov 2014 5:45 pm    
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It's C6, although not necessary tuning the bottom A up to Bb makes it a little easier to play.

Mike
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Mark Roeder


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Post  Posted 20 Nov 2014 9:58 am    
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Cool. What do you think he used to get that B3 sound?
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Jeff Mead


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Post  Posted 20 Nov 2014 10:32 am    
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Mark Roeder wrote:
Cool. What do you think he used to get that B3 sound?


He'd have been using a Leslie cabinet - probably the B16 which was designed to be driven by a guitar amp and had a guitar speaker with a rotating drum in front of it with a slot to give the rotating speaker sound.

If you don't want to get one of those there are various Leslie emulator pedals mostly ranging from quite expensive to very expensive indeed.

I have found that, while there is absolutely nothing else that sounds quite like a real Leslie (especially for recording), the pretty cheap Behringer RM600 Leslie Simulator pedal gets you pretty close - particularly in a live environment where there are other instruments in the mix too. In fact I'd go as far as to say I prefer it to some of the vastly more expensive pedals I've heard - especially on the B16 setting.

Just noticed on the For Sale forum, someone is selling the Line 6 Roto Machine. I understand that the Behringer I was talking about is a clone of this pedal. No connecion with the seller - just pointing it out.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 20 Nov 2014 2:28 pm    
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The Vaughn Brothers were Jerry Byrd fans and even explored lessons with the master. Jimmie named JB as his favorite guitar player of "sleepy guitar" as he called steel in an interview in Guitar Player Magazine.
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Jack Hanson


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Post  Posted 20 Nov 2014 4:40 pm    
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Mark Roeder wrote:
What do you think he used to get that B3 sound?

Stevie was a huge fan of the Fender Vibratone, which was basically a Leslie (without the spinning horn on top) in a black tolex cab.

That's a Vibratone on the upper left in the above photo, with the mic angled into the top port.

Betcha Stevie merely allowed his big brother to play through one of his rigs.
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J Fletcher

 

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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2014 6:55 am    
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A cool tune. I remember in an interview, Jimmy V saying he used a Peavey amp with the chorus on to get the Leslie effect. But that was years ago, and my memory isn't what it used to be.
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 21 Nov 2014 7:02 am    
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Yeah, it lays pretty well in C6. Thanks Mike. I should've just picked-up my guitar and figured it out myself, I get lazy with this Forum at my fingertips!
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Ethan Shaw

 

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Post  Posted 23 Nov 2014 8:39 pm    
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J, I asked Jimmie about it, and he said exactly what you thought--it was through a Peavey with the chorus turned on. I've been obsessed with that song since I was a kid, and was really excited to ask him about it. He also told me he used a C6 tuning, with a low C (like the low C of the pedal steel tuning). He told me that Jerry Byrd taught him that tuning.
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Miles Lang


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 11:23 am    
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I love this song. I have the tab here somewhere, but just ear, it seems to lay well in C#m7 tuning (C#-E-G#-B-C#-E), too
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Sam Marshall

 

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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 11:49 am    
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A friend & I have spoken to Jimmy Vaughn about this and he confirms it was a Peavey amp with a chorus that was in the studio at the time.

He also admitted he does not care for the tone used on this song.

Sam
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Brooks Montgomery


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 11:50 am    
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anybody else getting an error on the link?
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Miles Lang


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 11:53 am    
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Yes, but here is a link to the same recording
https://youtu.be/TqL39n4-BXo
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 12:01 pm    
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Sam Marshall wrote:
A friend & I have spoken to Jimmy Vaughn about this and he confirms it was a Peavey amp with a chorus that was in the studio at the time.

He also admitted he does not care for the tone used on this song.

Sam


I can appreciate that statement, but I know I would have been happy with it in that context. Sounds pretty good to me.

Actually, I don't know much about Jimmy except for a few recent PBS spots with various things and of course all those years with the Fab T-Birds. Seen those spots many times over the years.

Had no idea he and SRV were JB fans but not surprised. His influence was far reaching.

Thanks for that link too, Miles.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 26 Aug 2016 12:59 pm    
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https://www.facebook.com/mikedneer/videos/10205713893353613/?l=6763870463280387830

The guy who engineered and mixed my record also mixed some of Family Style, though I'm not sure which tunes.
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 28 Aug 2016 4:20 am    
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Wow, a blast from the past, I'd forgotten about this thread.
I still play the tune though. C6 works for me although the melody is a little tricky, that is, if you play it the way Jimmy did. The second note in the first line is a Db. It's kind of a cool tension but in most of the versions I've heard, it's played as a D natural. As Miles said "Don't play the butter notes".
This is kind of cool:
https://youtu.be/HOf25Lb2Jhc
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