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Topic: Fascinating pedal steel - BosSan Push Pull |
Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2012 1:30 pm
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You forgot Bethel and Brandley.
I have never had a Bilt-well, nor a Bil-Tel. I only know of the Blankenship and Wheeler in New Mexico, and I do not want that one. The rest on your list I have had or have. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Michael Lee Allen
From: Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 10:52 am
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Chris Lucker
From: Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2012 2:12 pm
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I forgot Blanton and Jerry sent md the first Blanton he made. It is a 1964.
Brandley is a guy who modified steels in the Fifties and probably early Sixties. He made a few guitars that were like the Blankenship and Wheeler that mike Black had or has. _________________ Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Cliff Kane
From: the late great golden state
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 8:16 am
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Mike Perlowin wrote: |
I am going to take a look at it tomorrow morning. I'll let everybody know what I think about it. |
Mike, did you get a chance to check it out? What did you think of it? |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 8:45 am
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Cliff Kane wrote: |
Mike Perlowin wrote: |
I am going to take a look at it tomorrow morning. I'll let everybody know what I think about it. |
Mike, did you get a chance to check it out? What did you think of it? |
No. I had an appointment with the lady who has it, and she asked me to call her last Sunday at 10:AM to get the address, which I did. She was not in so I left a message on her voice mail, and she never called me back. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Tommy Boswell
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2012 4:51 am BOS-SAN pictures
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This was on the show-room floor at Billy Cooper's a few years ago:
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Bob Poole
From: Myrtle Beach SC, USA
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Posted 27 Aug 2014 8:20 pm bos-san advert picker.
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I'm takin a guess here,but could the long-haired fella be Dale Pennington,from NC's Sutter's Gold Streak Band? |
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Fred Layman
From: Springfield, Missouri USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2014 6:50 am Bos-San Pedal Steel
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I have the last Bos-San pedal steel that was in process of completion when the two owners ceased production and passed away. Harold Flynn had just begun production of his Flynn pedal steel guitar company in Knoxville and learned that the widow of one of the owners had some milling machinery for sale. Harold went to Richmomd, bought the machinery and the widow included the incompleted Bos-San. Following Harold's death I bought Harold's company, including the partially completed Bos-San which is still in my workshop. I noted earlier that Billy Cooper had one of the Bos-Sans in his store in Richmond and I plan to send it to him for completion and sale there. (Virginia |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 2 Sep 2014 9:54 am
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since it says ht spain under each picture, maybe it's ht spain. |
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Paul Redmond
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2014 7:50 pm
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Harold Spain actually held a patent on that guitar. He suffered the ravages of diabetes and lost one of his legs to the disease. He was still able to get around his shop reasonably well on crutches until his death in, I believe, 1988. Millie, his widow, contacted me about buying out the business. I couldn't at the time, so I passed the info on to Harold Flynn who did buy the equipment.
Harold Spain used mostly cocobolo wood on his guitars. It's a dangerous wood to sand because of its toxicity....you HAVE to wear a protective mask or risk the consequences. This design lends itself well to very complex setups. A pull can be made raise-predominant, lower-predominant, or equalized. I regret not being able to take over where Mr. Spain left off. He was a fine machinist and his guitars exhibited that fact. There used to be a prominent player in the Richmond area who played a S-14 BosSan, but I don't remember his name.
PRR |
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Russ Wever
From: Kansas City
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Bob Poole
From: Myrtle Beach SC, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2014 12:22 pm Bos-San advert
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Talked to a former Sutters Gold Streak Band member & the hillbilly-hippie in the ad is,as I suspected,Dale Pennington(Peton).Nobody seems to know where he is now.He played some really good steel,sometimes sounded like a blend of Buddy Cage & Jerry Garcia. |
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Sid Hudson
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2014 4:25 pm
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The hippie looking fellow is Harold Spain's son.
The guy with the german helmet on is me. |
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Bob Poole
From: Myrtle Beach SC, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2014 6:26 pm oops !
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Guess I was wrong.a former bandmate of Dale's IDd the guy as Peton,as Dale was known.Sorry for any confusion. |
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Jay Jessup
From: Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2014 7:49 pm
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Sid,
My main memory of you back in mid-70's Richmond is playing the fire out of that Leon Rhodes/335 style Epiphone. I do recall seeing you play a little steel but never with a thumbpick--and back then your hair wasn't as long---mine was much longer and more scraggly!!
The fellow that Paul referred to playing the S-14 Bos-San was most likely Don Fullmer who used to hang out at Harold's shop a lot back then and talk about the 14 string that Harold was going to build him.
I have to add this in memory of Harold Spain. I bought a real POS D-10 Emmons copy from one of those Broad Street (Richmond VA) music stores in 74 and after taking a lesson or two from Teddy Lloyd at Metro Music on Hull street, he said take that thing to Harold Spain, he can get it fixed up for you--and Harold did, and wouldn't hardly take any payment for his work!
I think at the time he was already mostly retired from wherever he spent most of his life working and had a pretty well set up machine shop in a very small one car garage sized space next to his house. He was already well on the way to making his first Bos-San at that time (I never met the other guy, just Harold) and told me all about how it was going to work so well which was way over my head at the time, but he also taught me enough to have confidence working on my own guitars. My main memory of Harold was that he was just a very kind, soft spoken and humble man with a real love of steel guitars and enough confidence in his knowledge and skill to think he could build a better one. There are most likely many other examples of people like that all over the country in our little steel guitar world that no one ever heard of and it's one of the things that make our unique instrument great. Harold was a certainly a master craftsman as well as a fine machinest and a good thinker.
About five years ago I almost bought a Bos-San d-10 that Billy Cooper had at his store (not the green one above) just out of respect for Harold but I wound up buying Ray Garrett's long scale Pro-III that also turned up there not too long before Ray passed. |
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Sid Hudson
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2014 10:47 pm
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I still play "very little" steel. The thumb pick is never something I could make work for make.
Harold was a great man.
I still stay in touch with Teddy about once per week. You should call him sometimes. Call me if you need his phone number. |
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Jay Jessup
From: Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2014 9:18 am
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Sid,
I meant played steel only occasionally, you could play it well back then if I remember right and judging by the your CD that still holds very true.
thanks for the strings!! |
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