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David Rupert


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 10:05 am    
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I have The Byrds "Sweetheart of the Rodeo," 2 CD Legacy Edition set.

Who is the steel player, on "All I have are memories," (outakes)?

Lloyd Green, or JD Maness??

Whoever it is, he's pure genius!! Such tone, & taste!! I get goosebumps on my goosebumps!! WOW! Awesomeness. Smile
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Fish

 

Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 10:41 am    
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The steel player on this track is the inimitable Lloyd Green.

Congratulations on finding these classic and influential sessions.
With Clarence White on guitar and either Mr. Green or JayDee Maness on pedal steel, this is the motherlode for me.
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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 10:47 am    
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Chris Ledrew (who's a Steel Guitar Forum guy although I haven't seen him post in awhile) posted this on another forum

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1044673&page=2

Chris said Lloyd told him that he and Clarence White had only met that day in the studio and just let it rip. Maybe Chris will chime in here....
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 12:07 pm    
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Kudos to Kevin Kelley for singing this song! His drum rolls on "You Ain't Going Nowhere" were exceptional too.
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Steve Rosko


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Georgetown, Texas
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 1:17 pm    
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Funny this is posted today, as today I "rediscovered" this album. Great stuff
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David Rupert


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Mesa, Arizona (via Mahopac, NY & Missouri).
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 2:48 pm     Lloyd Green!!
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Fish wrote:
The steel player on this track is the inimitable Lloyd Green.

Congratulations on finding these classic and influential sessions.
With Clarence White on guitar and either Mr. Green or JayDee Maness on pedal steel, this is the motherlode for me.


Thanks, for the reply to my post! Wow...this is great to know. Pure genius playing from Lloyd Green. Soooo tasteful.!!

I've always loved this album...but it's even better with the outakes, alternate versions, etc. I actually like many of outakes/alternate versions, more than the original tracks.

Thanks, Lloyd Green...for such excellent playing! My ears were glued to the right speaker on my stereo, last night...enjoying everything you laid down. Awesome.

Of course, JD Maness is awesome as well. Just something special about this particular song. I also really dig Kevin Kelly's vocals. Really blew me away! Kinda sounds like McGuinn. Definitely unique, in a great way!
Not to forget the genius of Clarence White. Gone way too soon!
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Mark Eaton


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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2014 3:31 pm    
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I don't have this Legacy CD package.

Check out this link, here is an instrumental version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1N8IBbOo7s
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Steve Rosko


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Georgetown, Texas
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 12:00 pm    
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Anyone know what equipment Lloyd Green used on these songs?
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Pete Finney

 

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Nashville Tn.
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 12:52 pm    
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Steve Rosko wrote:
Anyone know what equipment Lloyd Green used on these songs?


He's playing his Sho-Bud "Fingertip" on that album; Bobbe Seymour tells quite a bit about it here:

http://pedalsteelmusic.com/?p=186

That's also the steel Lloyd is playing in these clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYOTlA0i7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJQdR0ciwYg


I'd guess he probably would have been playing through a Fender Twin in the studio in 1968, though I could be wrong.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 1:00 pm    
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I believe I've read that on You Ain't Going Nowhere Lloyd was playing thru a Deluxe Reverb (w/15" cab, I think?). You can really hear an aggressive growl. I just can't remember about the other cuts.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 1:05 pm    
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http://www.onstagemagazine.com/meeting-mr-nashville-sound-lloyd-green/

Yeah--Chris LeDrew's fine article here lays out some details.
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Fish

 

Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 1:40 pm    
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Pete: you are partially correct!

I'm fairly certain Lloyd was using the Fender Deluxe with a JBL D120-F speaker described in this Vintage Guitar article (below) for most of the tracks ("You Ain't Goin' Nowhere," "Hickory Wind," etc.) but he apparently used the house Fender Twin at the studio when he went out to LA in May 1968 for the "One Hundred Years" sessions with Clarence White, et al.

http://www.vintageguitar.com/3683/lloyd-green/

I recently acquired a Fender Deluxe Re-issue with a JBL D120-F speaker...it's now my number one amp. It changed my life. Yes, it breaks up above Volume 4, but I run it around 2.5 or 3 and it sings. The tubes are biased hot and a little fan keeps them cool. I love it.
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David Rupert


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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2014 7:46 pm     Great info!
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Wow, such great info! Thanks to all.
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David "DJ" Rupert

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David Cubbedge


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Post  Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:25 am    
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The reissued and expanded versions of the Byrds 'Sweetheart of the Rodeo' and '(Untitled)' are simply awesome and a must have! Especially the first for the steel lover in us!
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